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Old 05-24-2012, 12:36 AM
 
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Me and 44% of Americans, including many in this thread, would NOT MIND California's demise because that would mean an economic boon for the rest of the United States, as what has been going on for the past 20 years.

The vultures are circling over the head of California, and once the state dies, the rest of us will scavenge it and move on with our lives.

And yes, California is not sufficiently American. What's wrong with stating the truth?
Huge Foodie, it's clear that you despise California for whatever reason whether it's politics, popularity, better weather and topography than the Northeast. But that doesn't give the right to troll around making ridiculous statements that California is "Un-American" because they have less Veterans. For 1) Your wrong on that as stated, 2) As I stated I don't see how being a Veteran makes you more American compared to someone who works in homeland security, government, AmeriCorps, etc.

Note: Not all New Yorkers loathe California. I'm a New Yorker and I love California because it's weather, topography, and lifestyle. In fact I think California has more to offer than most of New York State, and from what I hear Sacramento is a much nicer capital city than Albany. And as politics go, New York State government is more corrupt than the California State government.
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Old 05-24-2012, 12:58 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Huge Foodie, it's clear that you despise California for whatever reason whether it's politics, popularity, better weather and topography than the Northeast. But that doesn't give the right to troll around making ridiculous statements that California is "Un-American" because they have less Veterans. For 1) Your wrong on that as stated, 2) As I stated I don't see how being a Veteran makes you more American compared to someone who works in homeland security, government, AmeriCorps, etc.

Note: Not all New Yorkers loathe California. I'm a New Yorker and I love California because it's weather, topography, and lifestyle. In fact I think California has more to offer than most of New York State, and from what I hear Sacramento is a much nicer capital city than Albany. And as politics go, New York State government is more corrupt than the California State government.
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I also take fault with the notion that 44% of the people who view CA negatively actively want the place to implode or disintegrate.
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Old 05-24-2012, 01:08 AM
 
Location: 80904 West siiiiiide!
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In Colorado, you're just supposed to hate Californians and Texans. Nobody ever told me why. It was explained to me when I got older that Californians are despised becausee they left to escape the horrible ills of their home state, but then bring their voting habits with them, and turned the state blue. This causes extreme resentment from old natives of Colorado.

Texans are frowned upon, because they've took all their oil millions, and bought up what was once public land and fenced it off permanently, to build their exorberant McMansions, which is looked at as wasteful and not conducive with how most Coloradans live. Hope this clears up any confusion.

Personally, I don't really care.
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Old 05-24-2012, 03:15 AM
 
Location: Denver Colorado
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Try driving California plates around certain old school Denver suburbs.."Oh will you just breathe in the LOVE.... other parts of Denver you are practically in California without the palm trees.

What's the old saying here in Colorado? " if God wanted Texan's to ski he would have made bull****white..Anyway I have lived in both Texas and California both very welcoming states to outsiders in my experiences.

FTR Denver is full of transplants from both...I find the whole resentment thing confined to the more relic types; people who's idea of extensive travel is going to Nebraska.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:39 AM
 
Location: The City
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End of the day America is a better place because of both CA and TX; as is the case for 48 other great states
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:23 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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Both Californians and Texans are very friendly on the whole. I'd say Texans are more traditional "old america" types...not sure if that's the right word but, it's the vibe I got.

Californians are more in tune with the world more because they are on the coast and the influence of LA and the Bay Area. Now, being from CA I have taken some crap from Texans. But that's derived mainly from stereotypes...those are everywhere.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:45 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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In Colorado, you're just supposed to hate Californians and Texans. Nobody ever told me why. It was explained to me when I got older that Californians are despised becausee they left to escape the horrible ills of their home state, but then bring their voting habits with them, and turned the state blue. This causes extreme resentment from old natives of Colorado.

Texans are frowned upon, because they've took all their oil millions, and bought up what was once public land and fenced it off permanently, to build their exorberant McMansions, which is looked at as wasteful and not conducive with how most Coloradans live. Hope this clears up any confusion.

Personally, I don't really care.
You nailed it. Rich blowhards rolling in by the tens of thousands each year will get under your skin. The people in both Texas and Californians are as good and bad as anyone else, and just as patriotic (or not). Kind of stupid to assume tens of millions of people are all alike. I wish them the best, and hope they can find what they seek in their own states!
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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Try driving California plates around certain old school Denver suburbs.."Oh will you just breathe in the LOVE.... other parts of Denver you are practically in California without the palm trees.

What's the old saying here in Colorado? " if God wanted Texan's to ski he would have made bull****white..Anyway I have lived in both Texas and California both very welcoming states to outsiders in my experiences.

FTR Denver is full of transplants from both...I find the whole resentment thing confined to the more relic types; people who's idea of extensive travel is going to Nebraska.
Hey, my Dad is from Nebraska. His "life trip" was a trip from California to Cozad,NE, where he was born. Give me a trip to "Car Henge" anyday...

Seriously, I love the high plains. Kind of a big ocean of grass in the middle of the country. Thunderstorms like mountains too. Majestic as hell.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:50 PM
 
Location: Atlanta & NYC
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I have never met anyone who hated California. They all say the high cost of living is worth the sunshine and happiness.

However, I've heard mixed reviews of Texas. I guess some of the major cities are great for young people but other parts are just filthy and crime ridden. Don't know the whole truth to that, but that's what I've heard. I'd like to visit both states eventually, as the furthest west I've ever been was Colorado for like a week.
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Old 05-26-2012, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Pluto's Home Town
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I have never met anyone who hated California. They all say the high cost of living is worth the sunshine and happiness.

However, I've heard mixed reviews of Texas. I guess some of the major cities are great for young people but other parts are just filthy and crime ridden. Don't know the whole truth to that, but that's what I've heard. I'd like to visit both states eventually, as the furthest west I've ever been was Colorado for like a week.

Bolded above. No, it's not. California has its very nice spots and hell holes. The nice spots are just outrageously expensive (try to figure out how to support yourself and buy a middle class home in Santa Barbara, for instance).

Of course, it is all a matter of opinion. I would consider living in some areas of California, but I have yet to see anything that would justify the COL.

I cannot comment knowledgeably on Texas, but I suspect it has nice and lousy spots too. It is much more affordable though.

My personal take is that Texas is not very appealing, and California is not worth it. There are many nicer places than either, at least when you factor in all the dimensions (affordability, opportunity, safety, good schools, etc.) of a good lifestyle.

I'll say this. If I won ten mllion in the lottery tomorrow, I would move to California. Until then, there are far better options.
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