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Old 06-14-2012, 08:23 AM
 
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Sunbelt is new rust belt. Without bubbles and housing there is almost no real economy.
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Old 06-14-2012, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Rust Belt

Why isn't this a poll?
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Old 06-15-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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Well, I'm continually amazed at how people assume the Sun Belt will never run into serious and irreversible water shortage problems. It's not like the underground aquifers they use are going to last forever, and desalinization is not an economical solution. (Not even the Great Lakes will last forever... which is why water will be piped down South from them, over my dead body.)
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Old 06-15-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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I think outside Chicago I don't find the Midwest interesting .Sunbelt has allot decent cities and warm climate.
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Old 09-01-2012, 07:47 AM
 
Location: South Florida
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South Florida's become a cesspool.
I moved here from Milwaukee in '95.
It's far from being laid back (as it once was), housing's VERY expensive, and the jobs don't pay well enough to live here unless you have income coming in from another source.
This area's been voted "rudest people" countless times, and rightfully so.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:35 AM
 
Location: FL
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Sunbelt is new rust belt. Without bubbles and housing there is almost no real economy.
Very true. For the first time in 15 years of bouncing back between the two, Michigan and Florida, I can say it's easier to get a job in MI right now.
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Old 09-01-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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I never could tell if there would be a real water issue in Az at some point or was it the sky is falling type mindset from other people outside the state? Colorado river has plenty of water feeding lots of areas. There's a guy on the Phoenix forum who's pretty up on all of it and he says there is no issue.I know water rates were going up a lot when we left--We paid about 60/month and the new water company we had was raising rates. I think it will be near 90/month in a few years. We had a pool, too, though.
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Old 09-01-2012, 12:02 PM
 
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Sunbelt is new rust belt. Without bubbles and housing there is almost no real economy.
LOL! You obviously don't know much about industry in cities like Houston, Miami, Dallas, Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Jacksonville, L.A., Raleigh, and other large sunbelt cities. Even smaller cities like Chattanooga, Birmingham, Charleson, Winston-Salem, Richmond, etc. have massive industry and diversified economies. You should learn something before you try to speak.
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:39 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Louisville is NOT a Sun Belt city.

It's neither; it shares some of the characteristics of a Rust Belt city, but it's just geographically and climatically far enough south to not be in the Rust Belt. But, it's geo., clim. and culturally not a Sun Belt City as it is where the Midwest shakes hands with the South, so to speak.

I'm sure some die-hard Midwesterner from Peoria or Dubuque will contest my statement. I'm from Kentucky originally, have lived in Louisville and know what I'm talking about.
Louisville may not geographically be in the Sun Belt, and it may have some manufacturing history, but by today's standards, it is indeed part of the Sun Belt...it has experienced all the booms and characteristics of the New South. Louisville for only being 110 miles south of Indianapolis feels more like 200 miles south of it. Louisville has a lot in common with Richmond, Nashville, and Charlotte.
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Old 09-01-2012, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Rust Belt

Why isn't this a poll?
It's not a poll because I want people to explain why they chose what they did. A discussion on the issue I think sheds more light than some voting poll. If we can truly get to the bottom of why someone thinks the way they do, and they aren't very educated on the matter, we can correct this and then test to see whether they'd still vote the same way.
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