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Old 08-06-2012, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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What exactly are the pitfalls?
I'm primarily referring to the HEAT As well as the drought situation, potential water issues, etc. Also above-average housing costs, Texas state politics, PT leaves something to be desired. Not really things that affect you on a day-to-day basis, but things to be aware of. Considering that, obviously still a great place to live. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else right now.
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:09 AM
 
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I'm primarily referring to the HEAT As well as the drought situation, potential water issues, etc. Also above-average housing costs, Texas state politics, PT leaves something to be desired. Not really things that affect you on a day-to-day basis, but things to be aware of. Considering that, obviously still a great place to live. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else right now.
Yeah, we've had kind of a drought in Illinois too up until a few days ago. I know Texas as a state is fairly conservative but I know Austin is very liberal if I have my facts straight. Are too many people moving to Austin though? Would it be harder to find employment than it was a few years ago?
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Yeah, we've had kind of a drought in Illinois too up until a few days ago. I know Texas as a state is fairly conservative but I know Austin is very liberal if I have my facts straight. Are too many people moving to Austin though? Would it be harder to find employment than it was a few years ago?
You'd think, right? It sounds like Austin job growth is at least keeping up with the population growth, which is astounding to me! Austin is growing too fast though, IMO, to sustain any kind of great quality of living. A "sustainable" level of development is one in which infrastructure and employment/GDP can keep up with population demand. You can argue about employment or GDP in Austin, but not the infrastructure (improvements are being made but it's leap years behind where it needs to be and no amount of funding can keep up with metro growth rates of 35% per decade!).
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas, USA
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You'd think, right? It sounds like Austin job growth is at least keeping up with the population growth, which is astounding to me! Austin is growing too fast though, IMO, to sustain any kind of great quality of living. A "sustainable" level of development is one in which infrastructure and employment/GDP can keep up with population demand. You can argue about employment or GDP in Austin, but not the infrastructure (improvements are being made but it's leap years behind where it needs to be and no amount of funding can keep up with metro growth rates of 35% per decade!).
Yep, I'd agree with this, at least in terms of transportation. QOL has been negatively affected by the increase in traffic and lack of a viable alternative like rail or bus lane, etc. Even with a robust PT or highway plan (neither of which is on this year's bond election) the city will be playing catch-up for a long time. However, outside of transportation, albeit being a major pitfall, I fail to see other areas in which infrastructure has not kept up well and QOL has degraded- so far, QOL remains quite high for most. Also, that would be mostly a non-issue for someone who lives in or near the arts district of East Austin, assuming work is nearby.

The growth from 2000-2010 was 20%, which I agree in the long-term is not sustainable. Things will have to slow down at some point, if not solely for the transportation or water issues. I certainly hope they do. Growth rates previous to that seem insane but keep in mind, until the early 2000s Austin had robust annexation policies which attributed largely to some of that growth.
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Old 08-06-2012, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Yep, I'd agree with this, at least in terms of transportation. QOL has been negatively affected by the increase in traffic and lack of a viable alternative like rail or bus lane, etc. Even with a robust PT or highway plan (neither of which is on this year's bond election) the city will be playing catch-up for a long time. However, outside of transportation, albeit being a major pitfall, I fail to see other areas in which infrastructure has not kept up well and QOL has degraded- so far, QOL remains quite high for most. Also, that would be mostly a non-issue for someone who lives in or near the arts district of East Austin, assuming work is nearby.

The growth from 2000-2010 was 20%, which I agree in the long-term is not sustainable. Things will have to slow down at some point, if not solely for the transportation or water issues. I certainly hope they do. Growth rates previous to that seem insane but keep in mind, until the early 2000s Austin had robust annexation policies which attributed largely to some of that growth.
Austin allegedly grew by over 55,000 residents from 2010 to 2011, and assuming its population was at or around 1.5 million, that'd be about 35%. Maybe it was 30% last year....fast, nonetheless!
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Old 08-07-2012, 10:14 AM
 
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By seeing these posts and with talking to someone in Austin I think it's gone lower to the list as I've heard rent prices keep going up and up due to the people flocking to the area. I'm still considering Fargo as I may make the treck up there to at least check out the area and take an interview if I get one. I pretty much have to secure a job before moving anywhere. I'm looking around the Minneapolis area too. Does anyone have other suggestions on places with low unemployment and good cost of living with plenty of entry level jobs?
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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Omaha NE may be a sleeper, as it has a very low unemployment rate and is growing. I believe that the COL is pretty low overall too. Nearby Lincoln is a college town/capital city with the 3rd lowest unemployment rate in the country: Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:35 AM
 
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Hmm, that's a good one to look into!
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Old 08-07-2012, 06:37 PM
 
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Omaha NE may be a sleeper, as it has a very low unemployment rate and is growing. I believe that the COL is pretty low overall too. Nearby Lincoln is a college town/capital city with the 3rd lowest unemployment rate in the country: Unemployment Rates for Metropolitan Areas
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Old 08-07-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Midtown Omaha
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A few more places that have to do with live music and the art scene here. Just highlighting the main ones.

Slowdown

The Waiting Room Lounge

Film Streams

Bemis Center for Contemporary Arts : Welcome

http://www.hotshopsartcenter.com/

Omaha really hits all the original criteria and would give you a more liberal and bigger city than Fargo. Sounds like you would really enjoy the Benson or Dundee neighborhoods here. A recent local write up on a Benson neighborhood that has "arrived," but trust me still has lots of places with cheep rent. I lived in the Dundee area last year and paid under $300 a month for my share of a 2BR and that is including utilities and cable/internet. Benson and Dundee are neighboring neighborhoods. Grace: Almost afraid to ask, but has Benson arrived? - Omaha.com

Fargo is actually a pretty nice 200K city and is growing pretty fast, you could find decent work and cheep cheep COL. Not a lot in terms of touring music or artistic events hit there though.

Sorry to seem like a homer! Just giving you some info .
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