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Old 08-02-2013, 02:11 PM
 
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Well you do realize that denial of African ancestry is not something unique to or exclusive to Dominicans alone right? That goes on in and among all groups of people worldwide. IJS. I don't know why people continue to point the finger soley at Dominicans.
I think it is because it has been or seems to be more prevalent and is still current.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:00 PM
 
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Another poster mentioned that about Panamanians and I know that Panama is a diverse country racially. I know that about Dominicans as well, but my point was about something else within Dominican society.
Yes. Panama is a diverse nation. Dominican Republic is a very diverse nation as well.

And btw the Miami Herald got called out for making broad generalizations about Dominicans which were very much inaccurate and misguided
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:05 PM
 
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I think it is because it has been or seems to be more prevalent and is still current.
Well people seem to like to overlook the facts and underlying realities and complexities.

The majority of Latinos that categorized themselves as black on the Census have been DOMINICANS. The growing awareness and attention of "Afro-Latinidad" has grown because of DOMINICANS.

So it's quite peculiar to see people consistently point the finger at Dominican Republic.
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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I think it is because it has been or seems to be more prevalent and is still current.
Can you prove how it is more prevalent or more current? Because I've mentioned some facts that refute your misguided perceptions and claims.

Also is there some special rules book that requires everyone to identify as black or else they are comitting a crime or making the whole world stop? Hmm -_-
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:08 PM
 
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I believe that Los Angeles has some Black Mexicans, as well as some Black folks that came from Central American countries(i.e.-Belize, Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama, etc.).

There are quite a few Dominicans in cities in eastern Massachusetts, especially Lawrence.
there is no such thing as a "black mexican"
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Old 08-02-2013, 09:09 PM
 
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boston, north philly, upper manhattan, the bronx, eastern brooklyn, nj, ct
basically anywhere with large dominican/puerto rican populations
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Old 08-02-2013, 10:36 PM
 
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there is no such thing as a "black mexican"
Yes there are Black Mexicans. There are hundreds of thousands of Black Mexicans from Mexico that live in the USA today scattered all out. They vary in looks and skin tones and colors.
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Old 08-02-2013, 11:16 PM
 
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there is no such thing as a "black mexican"
Afro-Mexican - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 08-03-2013, 06:36 AM
 
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Can you prove how it is more prevalent or more current? Because I've mentioned some facts that refute your misguided perceptions and claims.

Also is there some special rules book that requires everyone to identify as black or else they are comitting a crime or making the whole world stop? Hmm -_-
I never said that last part. So, don't put words in my mouth.

Also, the report did mention a sense of consciousness by some Doninicans. I think the thing is that there is still prevalence, which goes back to Trujillo and other influences, of some people of African descent distancing themselves from identifying with such. I don't think it is cut and dry, but it seems to be there.

I'm also wondering if those leading the Afro-Latinidad are those that already identified as such before arriving here and/or interwoven this with the consciousness that has occurred here in the US.

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Old 08-03-2013, 07:02 AM
 
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IIRC a genetic study last year showed the average Dominican was slightly more white than African. Something on the range of 48% white and 44% African, with the remainder Native American. So based upon the preponderance of ancestry, it's not really correct to say most are black, although due to the U.S. color line, people who are as little as a quarter African are commonly seen as black.

Many Central American countries have black populations. However, generally they are not Spanish-speaking. Black Panamanians are mostly the descendants of Jamaicans who moved there to help build the Panama Canal. Some may have switched to English a generation before, but many still speak English even in Panama (which is now officially bilingual). The Mosquito coast of Nicaragua, and to a lesser extent adjoining parts of Honduras and Costa Rica, have black populations, but they are traditionally English-speaking, as the area was an unofficial British colony for long periods (similar to Belize). Parts of Central America have Garifuna populations, who are mixed Black/Native, but they speak their own language.

Most Afro-Latinos who aren't highly mixed are from Cuba, Columbia, and Ecuador. But you can find enclaves of them still in even in places you wouldn't expect, like Peru.
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