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Old 08-30-2012, 10:44 AM
 
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Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly View Post
Maybe the census should just get rid of the Northeast region all together and just have New England and a huge Mid-Atlantic region spanning from New York to North Carolina as some of those states would no longer be considered part of the South anymore.
I don't see that happening...anyway, NC will remain as part of the South, whether it's designated as such or not. Same for New York as part of the Northeast.

 
Old 08-30-2012, 12:34 PM
 
Location: PG County, MD
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I don't see that happening...anyway, NC will remain as part of the South, whether it's designated as such or not. Same for New York as part of the Northeast.
Yeah, NC and NY are still solidly NE or SE whether or not they may also fit somewhat into 'mid-atlantic'.
In the future a Mid-Atlantic identity completely separate from the current 'North' and 'South' could arise though.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Mid-Atlantic Today:

North Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, DC, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New jersey, and New York(only because New York is not part of the New England States if thats correct)..........
Sorry, but North Carolina and Virginia are not culturally the same as the rest of the areas you mention.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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I can understand the reasons behind that definition (though it uses different defining characteristics than my definition). Did you forget Delaware?
Yes, I forgot Delaware.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Jefferson City 4 days a week, St. Louis 3 days a week
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Maybe the census should just get rid of the Northeast region all together and just have New England and a huge Mid-Atlantic region spanning from New York to North Carolina as some of those states would no longer be considered part of the South anymore.
I personally think Virginia and North Carolina both are still very much a part of the south.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Lincoln, NE (via SW Virginia)
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I personally think Virginia and North Carolina both are still very much a part of the south.
They are...Historically NC and VA are INTEGRAL parts of the south. These two states have had two of the largest cultural contributions. The Appalachian bluegrass prevalent in NC and VA is very much a part of the southern musical history. Both NC and VA were on the forefront of the moonshine industry which laid the framework for nascar. Both NC and VA fought for the south in the war and both states still have a majority "southern" population despite our growing transient population. Regardless of demographic or linguisitic trends Virginia and North Carolina have been and will continue to be large parts of the historical, geograpic, and cultural south.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i think DC, the MD/VA line is the demarcation of North/South
 
Old 08-30-2012, 06:11 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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i think DC, the MD/VA line is the demarcation of North/South
Good luck finding much that is southern culturally in northern Virginia.
 
Old 08-30-2012, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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i agree w/you on that. outside of NOVA, which is the DC bubble, is southern imo

i have a friend from staten island who lives in Manassas? (sp?)
 
Old 08-30-2012, 10:28 PM
 
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Good luck finding much that is southern culturally in northern Virginia.
Like Civil War battlefields and memorials? Waffle House? Kudzu?

All very common in NOVA.
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