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He/she said you'd find them throughout the entire South. That's not true. You'll find plantations dotted throughout most of the South, this is true. But the entire South does not have "a lot of African Americans" throughout both the Upper South and Deep South:
Your map shows that, outside of Appalachia, there are a lot of black people throughout most of the South. At least that's the way I'm reading it...there are areas where there are less black people than others and some where there are more, of course. I'm not saying they are distributed equally.
I'm not arguing with you, but just agreeing that the Upper and Deep South are more alike than different. There are some differences of course, but more similarities. That's just my opinion.
Your map shows that, outside of Appalachia, there are a lot of black people throughout the South. At least that's the way I'm reading it.
You're making it seem like Appalachia is just some tiny part of the South. It doesn't constitute the majority of the region, but it's still a HUGE area comprising a pretty big chunk of the Upper South where there are relatively little Blacks--namely almost all of KY and WV, half of AR and TN, and sizable portions of NC and VA and smaller portions of GA and AL. A large Black population is not characteristic of all areas of the South. The map makes that quite plain.
You're making it seem like Appalachia is just some tiny part of the South. It doesn't constitute the majority of the region, but it's still a HUGE area comprising a pretty big chunk of the Upper South where there are relatively little Blacks. A large Black population is not characteristic of all areas of the South. The map makes that quite plain.
Those are your words, not mine. I'm not making it seem like anything. Maps are interpretive and not always "quite plain".
You get awfully aggressive when someone even slightly differs with you. I'm not interested in going back and forth with you again over some minute detail.
Those are your words, not mine. I'm not making it seem like anything.
You get awfully aggressive when someone even slightly differs with you. I'm not interested in going back and forth with you again.
LOL, there's absolutely no aggression on my part but I simply don't think your argument holds up; you are the one that seems to get upset when you have trouble defending your own argument (which is very different from anyone else I've encountered here in C-D, which has certainly been longer than you've been here). Anyway, I went back and added detail that explains why it's incorrect to say that the entire South has a lot of Black people. According to the map, there are counties with very small Black populations in almost all of KY and WV, half of AR and TN, and sizable portions of NC and VA and smaller portions of GA and AL. That's a huge chunk of the South and the map makes that highly evident. Furthermore, being a Black native of the Deep South myself and in recent years having worked in north Georgia in particular and seeing the phenomenon firsthand gives me a firsthand perspective on it.
He/she said you'd find them throughout the entire South. That's not true. You'll find plantations dotted throughout most of the South, this is true. But the entire South does not have "a lot of African Americans" throughout both the Upper South and Deep South:
I would say that this map is the best indication of the line between the deep south and the upper south.
I guess a lot is relative. My hometown of Bristol va/tn was pretty mixed I feel. Upper south definitely has less but as a nationwide percentage I feel like it is higher. And we do have a LOT of plantation houses. My hometown of 20k people has 2 by itself.
I guess a lot is relative. My hometown of Bristol va/tn was pretty mixed I feel. Upper south definitely has less but as a nationwide percentage I feel like it is higher. And we do have a LOT of plantation houses. My hometown of 20k people has 2 by itself.
Plantation houses may be more clustered in the Deep South, but they are indeed scattered throughout the Upper South as well. But as far as Black populations go, definitely much less concentrated in the Upper South up through Appalachia with only a few exceptions. The Kingsport-Bristol metro area is less than 2% Black, Bristol, VA is 5.5% Black, and Bristol, TN is 3% Black. I don't think that's considered "a lot" by most standards, LOL.
Plantation houses may be more clustered in the Deep South, but they are indeed scattered throughout the Upper South as well. But as far as Black populations go, definitely much less concentrated in the Upper South up through Appalachia with only a few exceptions. The Kingsport-Bristol metro area is less than 2% Black, Bristol, VA is 5.5% Black, and Bristol, TN is 3% Black. I don't think that's considered "a lot" by most standards, LOL.
What would be your dividing line? I think about >10% black population in a small town or rural area could begin to indicate that you may be in the south. Notice I said "MAY"
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