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Old 12-03-2012, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Albuquerque is "middle-America, and White"? You say you grew up in NYC. but the OP's from New England. Very different demographics for the most part. But even then, Albuquerque, nor anywhere in the Southwest is "middle-America". Especially considering that NM is only 1 of 4 states that is a minority-majority states. Honestly, what's middle-American about Chicano-Culture and Native-Americans?
Abuquerque is:

47% Latino

42% White, non-Hispanic

If you think the the roughly 250,000 or so Anglos out here are culturally Latino or some kind of Hispanicised American White subculture, I suggest you come here and see for yourself.

I am not arguing they live in a cultural vacuum. The average White Albuquerquean can school you on the relative merits of chile growing areas in the state or suggest a good recipe for New Mexico style enchiladas, but other than that, they are just like their brethren in California, Colorado, Ohio, Maryland, you name it.

And again, New Mexico as a state, is very culturally different from most other stated in the country due to its demographics, but Albuquerque =/= New Mexico. Ask any rural, northern New Mexican. Or anyone of [i]any[I/] background from southern or Eastern New Mexico.
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Old 12-03-2012, 12:48 PM
 
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Abuquerque is:

47% Latino

42% White, non-Hispanic

If you think the the roughly 250,000 or so Anglos out here are culturally Latino or some kind of Hispanicised American White subculture, I suggest you come here and see for yourself.

I am not arguing they live in a cultural vacuum. The average White Albuquerquean can school you on the relative merits of chile growing areas in the state or suggest a good recipe for New Mexico style enchiladas, but other than that, they are just like their brethren in California, Colorado, Ohio, Maryland, you name it.

And again, New Mexico as a state, is very culturally different from most other stated in the country due to its demographics, but Albuquerque =/= New Mexico. Ask any rural, northern New Mexican. Or anyone of [i]any[I/] background from southern or Eastern New Mexico.
Albuquerque being 47% Latino is still significantly higher than anywhere in New England. The closest to that is probably Boston, or Hartford because of the Puerto Ricans. New England, and while we're at it, the WHOLE Northeast in general(outside of the large cities) is significantly more Anglo than most regions of the US. In the South/Southeast, Southwest, West-coast, there are rural populations that are significantly Hispanic(Southwest and California), Black(Southern/Southeastern US), and some Asian(California). Minorities in the Sunbelt region aren't relegated to the urban areas like they are up North. If anything, the Northeast might be more "middle-America" than most other regions besides the Midwest(which is LITERALLY and culturally "middle-America").
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:23 PM
 
Location: The City
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Albuquerque being 47% Latino is still significantly higher than anywhere in New England. The closest to that is probably Boston, or Hartford because of the Puerto Ricans. New England, and while we're at it, the WHOLE Northeast in general(outside of the large cities) is significantly more Anglo than most regions of the US. In the South/Southeast, Southwest, West-coast, there are rural populations that are significantly Hispanic(Southwest and California), Black(Southern/Southeastern US), and some Asian(California). Minorities in the Sunbelt region aren't relegated to the urban areas like they are up North. If anything, the Northeast might be more "middle-America" than most other regions besides the Midwest(which is LITERALLY and culturally "middle-America").

white yes, not totally sure anglo is the best description though - though certainly many anglos as well closer in to the larger cities there is still very large Italian populations even outside the cities
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:28 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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white yes, not totally sure anglo is the best description though - though certainly many anglos as well closer in to the larger cities there is still very large Italian populations even outside the cities
Except for Nothern New England, the Northeast is likely one of the least Anglo regions of the country. I get the impression English heritage makes a smaller % of white ancestry than elsewhere in the country. Most common ancestries where I grew up (Long Island) were Irish-American, Italian-American (probably the largest) and eastern European Jewish.
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Old 12-03-2012, 02:33 PM
 
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Well, maybe not Anglo, but there are more Non-Whites outside of the big cities and into the rural areas in The Sunbelt, then there are up North. Non-Whites are relegated to the larger cities for the most part up North.
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Old 12-03-2012, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Except for Nothern New England, the Northeast is likely one of the least Anglo regions of the country. I get the impression English heritage makes a smaller % of white ancestry than elsewhere in the country. Most common ancestries where I grew up (Long Island) were Irish-American, Italian-American (probably the largest) and eastern European Jewish.
The least anglo part of the US is the upper Midwest. It is very white but most of that is German and Scandinavian, people of English descent are relatively rare. It was the only part of the country that was largely homesteaded by immigrants (which is why is has a weird accent in some of the rural areas). The rural northeast is very English/WASPy by comparison (at least that was my experience growing up in upstate NY), the cities less so.

Edit: I found a map of English descent from the 2000 census.

http://www.statjump.com/lists/englis...dp2c153tc.html

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Old 12-03-2012, 04:37 PM
 
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Hawaii probably would be for anyone, and of course the deep south probably would for a different set of reasons. (aren't they polar opposites more than any other 2 places in this country, culturally speaking?)
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:19 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I've always thought how funny it is how such educated people are so gullible and can have such a misconception to how the rest of the country really is outside of their region.
And yet .... the OP seems almost PROUD of this fact, and is indeed bragging about his / her own ignorance. How very, very strange.

As a native Southerner, I will vouch for the fact that residents of the Northeast tend to be the most uneducated about other regions of the c
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I've always thought how funny it is how such educated people are so gullible and can have such a misconception to how the rest of the country really is outside of their region.
And yet .... the OP seems almost PROUD of this fact, and is indeed bragging about his / her own ignorance. How very, very strange.

As a native Southerner, I will vouch for the fact that residents of the Northeast tend to be the most uneducated about other regions of the country, not universally so of course but more so than others. Living in a huge tourist city that attracts millions of people from the NE every year, I'm always bemused by those who act as if they've genuinely "discovered" something special down south LOL!
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Old 12-03-2012, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Savannah GA
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I've always thought how funny it is how such educated people are so gullible and can have such a misconception to how the rest of the country really is outside of their region.
And yet .... the OP seems almost PROUD of this fact, and is indeed bragging about his / her own ignorance. How very, very strange.

As a native Southerner, I will vouch for the fact that residents of the Northeast tend to be the most uneducated about other regions of the country, not universally so of course but more so than others. Living in a huge tourist city that attracts millions of people from the NE every year, I'm always bemused by those who act as if they've genuinely "discovered" something special or unique down south ... like intelligent people, high culture and exceptional quality of life ... LOL!
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