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Old 12-09-2012, 12:08 AM
 
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Most GLBT-friendly cities in the Midwest are liberal. These are places that are liberal not because of a college campus and voting patterns but the widespread city, metro, and this extends to citywide policies, especially on LGBT rights.

On the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Equality Index, some of the highest midwest cities were Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Columbus, and Madison. This index recognizes cities not for bars or something trivial but widespread metro and city LGBT favorable policies.

Here is a link to the index; you can read about their measurements and see the cities that do stack up well in the Midwest: Page Not Found | Human Rights Campaign.

Do you agree or disagree with the ranking of any Midwestern city on the list?

I think I disagree with the ranking for Springfield, IL. I don't find the city to be that gay-friendly.
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:14 AM
 
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The link doesn't work but found another shown below. I completely dismiss the scoring system and criteria of these rankings as in my home state (Florida), according to the study Orlando ranks significantly higher than either Fort Lauderdale or the gay mecca of Wilton Manors. Zero credibility there....

http://www.hrc.org/files/assets/reso...12_HRC_MEI.pdf
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:01 AM
 
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Umm, you forgot to mention St. Louis, which scored 100.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:22 AM
 
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Most GLBT-friendly cities in the Midwest are liberal. These are places that are liberal not because of a college campus and voting patterns but the widespread city, metro, and this extends to citywide policies, especially on LGBT rights.

On the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Equality Index, some of the highest midwest cities were Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Columbus, and Madison. This index recognizes cities not for bars or something trivial but widespread metro and city LGBT favorable policies.

Here is a link to the index; you can read about their measurements and see the cities that do stack up well in the Midwest: Page Not Found | Human Rights Campaign.

Do you agree or disagree with the ranking of any Midwestern city on the list?

I think I disagree with the ranking for Springfield, IL. I don't find the city to be that gay-friendly.
Sounds about right. With Minneapolis leading.
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:46 AM
 
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Most GLBT-friendly cities in the Midwest are liberal. These are places that are liberal not because of a college campus and voting patterns but the widespread city, metro, and this extends to citywide policies, especially on LGBT rights.

On the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) Equality Index, some of the highest midwest cities were Minneapolis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Columbus, and Madison. This index recognizes cities not for bars or something trivial but widespread metro and city LGBT favorable policies.
glaring omission: st. louis, which scored the highest of any midwest city (perfect score).
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Old 12-09-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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"Favorable policies" always lag behind, and are changed through activism, not through epiphany by administrators. So those cities with high "munidipal law and policy" rating are likely those that have activists who have raise the issues. Cities with a low score just haven't gotten around yet to changing policy to reflect the new pro-GLBT posture of society, and likely have not been asked to. And in fact, the linked site exhorts its readers to instigate this kind of action, which will not change anything, but just raise the city's ranking on the Index. Any antiquarian laws are probably not enforced anyway. The fact is, it is not municipal laws that are a measure of community standards. Cities like Montgomery or Little Rock very likely do not fear gays, but they do fear the backlash by the extreme right, from whom they must curry votes. So the city may very weil be a perfectly gay-friendly environment, but afraid to risk votes by declaring it to be.

I would expect that on the ground, nowadays, just about every city in the USA is pretty much equally tolerant of GLBT, and if not, the difference is insignificant. I live in a small (70,000) city in the depth of a solidly red state, and I see no evidence among any of my (straight or GLBT) acquaintances nor in public policy that there in any relevant anti-gay sentiment. It's just quietly not referenced.

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Old 12-09-2012, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Springfield, Ohio
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I'm not buying that list...Oakland has the highest percentage of lesbians and third-highest percentage of LBGT folks in the US, but only scores an "80%".
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Fishers, IN
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I'm not buying that list...Oakland has the highest percentage of lesbians and third-highest percentage of LBGT folks in the US, but only scores an "80%".
I also found it strange that St. Louis was rated a 100 when one of the criteria was the ability for gays to legally marry.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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The attitudes of the populace and written law are not always in synch. This list is based on law rather than how the people who actually live there are.
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Old 12-09-2012, 11:10 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The attitudes of the populace and written law are not always in synch. This list is based on law rather than how the people who actually live there are.
Thanks -- you said in one line what I said in ten.
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