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Some parts of North and South Carolina are so overrun with northeast states yankees that you would think your in Conneticut or New Jooissee. Anywhere near the coast is slowly having its southern culture destroyed, and northeasterners do not adapt to thier new enviroment at all. They steam roll the local culture and re-do New Jersey right there in middle of Dixie. I completly understand why folks in both Carolinas resent what has happened to them. The end result in North and South Carolina is going to be what happened to south Florida.
I live in Georgia and I'm not the least bit bothered about northerners coming. The Atlanta area has alot of them and they've made parts of metro Atlanta quite interesting places. And the only thing I would be worried about in south Florida is the crime, which was already there before northerners moved there.
Its not what I believe or think that's natural that's at issue here. Greatly increased immigration (legal and otherwise) has been a fact since the late 1960s. Its profoundly and permanently changed the face of the country and continues on at a rate of 1 million each year just for legal immigrants (so those changes will just get more pronounced as time goes by). Migration from one region of the country to another is also a fact. You can't turn back the clock and the die is already cast as far as ramifications go. Basically, you can run but you can't hide. Northerners to The South, Californians to the rest of the Western states plus Texas and immigrants to every corner of the country are a fact of life. You can either adapt, head for the hills or call your congressman and complain (if that makes you feel better 'cause its not going to change things).
NOTE: Beau Charles, this is not directly to you.
It's all part of the communist/socialist/ liberal/progressive anti-white/anti-western/anti-capitalist/ anti-American mindset that brought forth the changes in the 1960s. Dirty, communist-minded, white-guilt ridden, anti-American "progressive" communists brought forth these changes, and so many of you are so happy to have welcomed these destructive effects with open arms. It's wonderful, many of you say. Ahh, the diversity. It doesn't matter that we don't even look like a unified people, relatively speaking, any more. It doesn't mind that our schools are worse than ever, that our social services are being wasted, or that we don't pay attention to our own laws or constitution any longer, what matters to you saps is the idea of ridding this country of its white European heritage, turning it into a multi-racial country that resembles nothing of its past, all so you people can gloat about tolerance and how you ridded this country of the evil white man.
Communists make me sick, and, frankly, every one of you that support this stuff are communists, socialists, or you have a deep hatred for traditional America and white people. There is no other way around it. Many of you have been thoroughly brainwashed, and do not know your history. You've been fed a steaming pile of dung, built on lies. Many of you are completely ignorant about history, as well as the way the world functions. It's like talking to someone who has the common sense of a gnat.
We can already see that different people groups, blacks, whites, hispanics, Asians, etc., have different cultures and are tribalistic in nature. Do you really think that mixing everyone up makes for a strong, cohesive country. What makes countries strong is unity, and you don't find unity in heavily diverse countries. Unity is found in countries built on a common people of a strong majority, something the United States had until the 1980s. Since, it's been all downhill. Have you not noticed how polarizing elections have become? What do you think will be the end of this? We already have hispanics belonging to groups like MECHA that advocate for the break-away of the southwestern United States. We have governors like Villaigorosa of Los Angeles that has belonged to groups that advocate such. We recently learned that this year in California, hispanics will outnumber whites. Do you really think that nothing will change when their voting power outnumbers traditional native white Americans? Seriously? Do you want a part of the country being of a different racial-cultural-ethnic state to the point where they advocate breaking apart?
Have you not noticed that most of the south of the border types we receive in this country, who illegal jumped our border and spat on our laws and Constitution, are low-educated types? How is taking in millions of such people who have very high birth rates, a good thing? Won't this drain the social reserve of this country, as if it isn't already drained. "Progressives" need to get a clue.
I live in Georgia and I'm not the least bit bothered about northerners coming. The Atlanta area has alot of them and they've made parts of metro Atlanta quite interesting places. And the only thing I would be worried about in south Florida is the crime, which was already there before northerners moved there.
I live in the Atlanta area, and they have not made this place interesting. Where do you get this idea that they have made Atlanta "interesting"? In fact, most of them, the white ones anyway, simply try to live a normal life just like the native southerners. Most are conservative, too. Maybe you're coming from a black perspective, where many of the black northerners who have moved here are loud and rude. If this is what you mean by interesting, you can keep it.
Regardless of the northerners, it's obvious that they keep their accents, most keep their sports team from their old town, and they are less prone to adopt southern culture, including our food. With so many coming, diluting the southern element in the area, it is a net NEGATIVE to who we are as a people in this area.
I live in the Atlanta area, and they have not made this place interesting. Where do you get this idea that they have made Atlanta "interesting"? In fact, most of them, the white ones anyway, simply try to live a normal life just like the native southerners. Most are conservative, too. Maybe you're coming from a black perspective, where many of the black northerners who have moved here are loud and rude. If this is what you mean by interesting, you can keep it.
Regardless of the northerners, it's obvious that they keep their accents, most keep their sports team from their old town, and they are less prone to adopt southern culture, including our food. With so many coming, diluting the southern element in the area, it is a net NEGATIVE to who we are as a people in this area.
So now you want to get all racial, huh?
For your information, I live in a predominantly White suburb. I started out living in Marietta though, and I met quite many northerners from places in the Midwest. Most northerners I've met are not as conservative as Southerners. Many I've known actually have different perspectives on things. I've actually enjoyed some of the culture being brought from some northerners.
Some parts of North and South Carolina are so overrun with northeast states yankees that you would think your in Conneticut or New Jooissee. Anywhere near the coast is slowly having its southern culture destroyed, and northeasterners do not adapt to thier new enviroment at all. They steam roll the local culture and re-do New Jersey right there in middle of Dixie. I completly understand why folks in both Carolinas resent what has happened to them. The end result in North and South Carolina is going to be what happened to south Florida.
This.
My parents were born and raised on the Battery in Charleston and went back there to retire.
I am saddened and shocked at what has been done to floridify the Mt. Pleasant/Charlston area. Its morally reprehensible. South Florida is a textbook A to Z of everything that is wrong with America--To purposely try to emulate it anywhere else should be a crime.
BTW I am a northerner by birth and moved to the Midwest/south to escape that influence that has proven to be a profound negativity from CT all the way down to Floridistan
There is no more quantifiable evidence than what has happened since the mid-80's-- developers owning local governments--that development is the worst plague since crack
I'd just like to say that as a Northerner, there's no offense taken here. I completely understand what you mean. That's the way I feel about working class, East Coast communities. It's hard to find a real working class community in any city these days, and given that's what I come from, it'd be what I would most likely want to be in.
It's all part of the communist/socialist/ liberal/progressive anti-white/anti-western/anti-capitalist/ anti-American mindset that brought forth the changes in the 1960s. Dirty, communist-minded, white-guilt ridden, anti-American "progressive" communists brought forth these changes, and so many of you are so happy to have welcomed these destructive effects with open arms. It's wonderful, many of you say. Ahh, the diversity. It doesn't matter that we don't even look like a unified people, relatively speaking, any more. It doesn't mind that our schools are worse than ever, that our social services are being wasted, or that we don't pay attention to our own laws or constitution any longer, what matters to you saps is the idea of ridding this country of its white European heritage, turning it into a multi-racial country that resembles nothing of its past, all so you people can gloat about tolerance and how you ridded this country of the evil white man.
In the past, there were Native Americans all across this country, and there were also millions of blacks in slavery. Your extremely racist, romanticized notion that America was somehow once all-white is downright comical.
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Communists make me sick, and, frankly, every one of you that support this stuff are communists, socialists, or you have a deep hatred for traditional America and white people. There is no other way around it. Many of you have been thoroughly brainwashed, and do not know your history. You've been fed a steaming pile of dung, built on lies. Many of you are completely ignorant about history, as well as the way the world functions.
It sounds like you are the one who needs a history/economics lesson. Where did you get your education? The back of a cereal box?
Socialism is when the government runs the means of production. That means eliminating all private control of Apple, Microsoft, General Electric, Coca-Cola, etc., and it would require a government bureaucracy of hundreds of millions of people. It's not even remotely possible in this country, nor has it ever been called for by anyone I've ever heard of. The very suggestion is absurd.
Communism extends the socialist ideology of total government ownership to everything else (i.e. not just economics), resulting in a one-party state, no elections, etc. Again, I've never heard of a single person in this country who wants that, and you'd have to be completely insane to believe in such a threat.
The Democrats aren't even close to either of those ideologies, and instead they are PROGRESSIVES. That means that they want the government strong enough to protect the people from the plutocrats, the banks, the insurance companies (i.e. NON-producers, and the best friends of the Republicans), who do NOT create a product that competes with other products on the free market like other companies do. Free market competition works because the more product you can sell, the more money you make, thus providing the incentive to make a good product at a good price that people will want to buy. But the way that insurance companies operate is the exact opposite: The LESS service they provide, the more money they make, thus giving them the incentive to deny service in any way possible, and to raise rates as much as possible.
So, a small handful of the most powerful insurance companies, banks, etc. simply ALIGN with one another to form virtual cartels within their particular "industry", allowing them to provide the LEAST amount of service at the HIGHEST possible price. It is the opposite of what the free market is supposed to be. And since people NEED insurance and bank accounts (unlike needing a MacBook or a Coke), they are stuck in this decidedly non-democratic and non-free market system ruled by the greedy insurance companies, shady Wall Street banks, etc.
The progressives' battle for years has been against the corporatists who want to decimate the federal government in order to allow the corporations to achieve total control of it through puppet politicians. If the corporatists can control a political party, and that party can gain control of the government, then just like communism you have ALL OF THE TOOLS OF POWER IN THE HANDS OF THE SAME PEOPLE. Progressivism, on the other hand, is the only ideology keeps the two arms of power (government and business) on opposite sides, relatively equal in power to one another, which is the only way to prevent either one from taking over everything. It's essentially a form of checks and balances, and the only way to truly protect the people from tyranny.
But guess what? The corporatists are WINNING. Over 90% of Republicans in Congress now are bought and paid for by the corporatists, as they have completely corrupted conservatism to be merely a tool for empowering their corporatist agenda, thus attempting to eliminate any ability of the federal government to stop them. This is what deregulation has been all about: systematic destruction of the very government protections that the two Roosevelt's fought for, among others. They would be EXTREMELY p!ssed if they were alive to see what has been going on for the past 30 years. Teddy would absolutely blow a gasket.
The Citizens United court decision is just one more example of how the corporatists are winning: corporations can now spend unlimited funds to influence elections (and do so anonymously). So when the Republicans outspent the Democrats 8 to 1 in that Wisconsin recall race, it should not be surprising that the Republicans won. Well OF COURSE you will win if you outspend your opponent 8 to 1. That is America's future, like it or not, unless we put a stop to it.
It is quite literally a threat to our national security, and instead of taking this threat seriously, Republicans are actually ENCOURAGING this corporate takeover of our government and our elections. The extremely psychologically-vulnerable conservative voters have become so extreme in their hatred and hysteria that they cannot even understand the basic reality of the situation before us, which is that a handful of super powerful corporations have already taken over the banking, insurance, media, and energy industries, threatening to dominate nearly every aspect of our lives.
And since the Republican Party has become almost entirely corrupted by the corporatists, the Democrats are literally the only thing standing between the people and total corporate dictatorship.
Oh, come on. You know that seeing such pickup trucks are rare. I'd say that most southerners, especially those living in metro areas, such as yourself, are apt to see something like that, at most, once every other month.
I currently live in an exurb where I see these kinds of pickup trucks more frequently. When I lived in Marietta, and even Kennesaw, I didn't see it that often. Where I live now, I see it alot more.
The United States had a uniform culture and few immigrants until the 1980s? Somebody REALLY needs a course in basic American history. We've been taking the most ambitious people in the world from the beginning. And it's been an enormous success story. As for the OP, check out Mississippi. Nobody from the other 49 states will step foot in that godforsaken place.
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