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So why does New Orleans have a walkscore of 55.6? It is arguably one of the oldest cities in America. It has the oldest bar, correct? It was here and visited long before America was a country.
Huntington Beach, Garden Grove, Fort Lauderdale, and many others are not as old as New Orleans, but still have higher walk scores.
L.A.? 65.
L.A. grew, and only grew because of oil, the rise of cars, and good weather with diverse terrain/environments to make movies. But yet it still has a rating higher than many places that are "older" "Sunbelt cities" and pre-automible cities.
Miami? 72.5.
So what? Have you actually been to New Orleans? Do you really think walk score is the end all be all of "walkability"? It's a formula and says nothing about the actual built environment aside from what types of businesses are nearby. You could have a bunch of strip malls with tons of amenities next to each other and have a high walk score. Have you ever been to Garden Grove? It's all strip malls. There is nothing pedestrian friendly about that city.
A lot of NOLA's city limits include suburban areas outside of the older central city.
Do you not get how Sunbelt cities are newer generally and have more development built post WWII? It's really not a hard concept to grasp.
A lot of NOLA's city limits include suburban areas outside of the older central city.
That is contradictory. Being inside the city limits means being... well... in the city.
Suburban areas? Yeah, they may be built like "suburbs", but when it comes down to it, they are inside the "city" of "New Orleans".
My hometown of Indianapolis has a walk score of 89.
But you might look it up and say, "No, that is a LIE! The real score is 37!!!"
And you are correct. That 89 score was the original city limits (roughly) of Indianapolis (which was one square mile, by the way) and the area code of 46204. But now? The city annexed over 340 square miles of land and most of square miles are in no way shape or form "walkable".
But none of that really matters. What matters is that people want to move to "good weather" areas, but only really want to be outside when they are doing it for recreation, or pleasure. They don't want to live their lives in that weather.
...And before anyone mentions it, I don't want to hear the, "Well, it's hot/humid in city/area X during the summer" excuse. It's hot in the summer. It may be hot, but it's hot everywhere (relatively) nonetheless. Isn't the benefit of a "Sunbelt City" the fact that the other months that aren't deemed "summer" make the outdoors more accessible and pleasant?...
Easy there you cheeky fkr. Not concerned with what you want/don't want to hear. Merely pointing out the obvious, which apparently has you truly befuddled.
That is contradictory. Being inside the city limits means being... well... in the city.
Suburban areas? Yeah, they may be built like "suburbs", but when it comes down to it, they are inside the "city" of "New Orleans".
No it's not contradictory at all. Many cities are the same way like Los Angeles. Who cares about some imaginary line?
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My hometown of Indianapolis has a walk score of 89.
But you might look it up and say, "No, that is a LIE! The real score is 37!!!"
And you are correct. That 89 score was the original city limits (roughly) of Indianapolis (which was one square mile, by the way) and the area code of 46204. But now? The city annexed over 340 square miles of land and most of square miles are in no way shape or form "walkable".
What is your point here?
You really are going off on some random tangents that don't seem to formulate any type of argument at all.
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But none of that really matters. What matters is that people want to move to "good weather" areas, but only really want to be outside when they are doing it for recreation, or pleasure. They don't want to live their lives in that weather.
So did those people who move to warm weather cities also decide what type of development was built and exists? Did they plan the roads, buildings, and city? Many people drive because they have to.
Sunbelt cities simply aren't built like older, northeastern/midwest cities and it has NOTHING to do with weather.
great point. walkable means a safe street. we dont have them.
in fact 5th highest pedestrian fatality rate in the nation. u need he car not for transportation but for protection.
That is contradictory. Being inside the city limits means being... well... in the city.
Suburban areas? Yeah, they may be built like "suburbs", but when it comes down to it, they are inside the "city" of "New Orleans".
My hometown of Indianapolis has a walk score of 89.
But you might look it up and say, "No, that is a LIE! The real score is 37!!!"
And you are correct. That 89 score was the original city limits (roughly) of Indianapolis (which was one square mile, by the way) and the area code of 46204. But now? The city annexed over 340 square miles of land and most of square miles are in no way shape or form "walkable".
But none of that really matters. What matters is that people want to move to "good weather" areas, but only really want to be outside when they are doing it for recreation, or pleasure. They don't want to live their lives in that weather.
The majority of people in Phoenix just can't ride or walk to work, it's not possible. Usually it's because their work is 15 to 30 miles from their house and almost no streets have bike lanes, no one is looking out for bikes, and walking to and from public transportation isn't worthwhile because the PT sucks.
There are a lot nice days to drive around with your windows down.
Easy there you cheeky fkr. Not concerned with what you want/don't want to hear. Merely pointing out the obvious, which apparently has you truly befuddled.
I already mentioned the obvious.
Maybe you have some theories on Buffalos and killing brain cells you would like to share with us?
1. Summer is hot. Everywhere. It is a relative heat.
2. People move to places that are "hot" (aka Sun Belt cities/areas) because they don't like the 3-4 months of genuine cold that is not prevalent in "Sun Belt" cities/areas.
3. "Sun Belt" cities are genuinely too hot to go out for 3-4 months of the year, but 8-9 months are perfectly fine to be outside walking about.
4. "Sun Belt" cities are generally less walkable than "cold" cities even though 8-9 months of the year allow "Sun Belt" cities/areas a fairly pleasant outdoor experience.
So what gives?
Why do people want to move to a place with "good weather" when all they are going to do, most of the time, is spend it in climate controlled areas (cars, houses, offices, etc.)?
Different people have different wants. Who are you to judge?
In most of the sunbelt cities you can find SOME neighborhoods where you can walk to commercial amenities. It may be an older part of town or it may be a subdivision near a mall or strip mall. The whole city does not have to have a high walk score for you to find a walkable place to live.
Different people have different wants. Who are you to judge?
In most of the sunbelt cities you can find SOME neighborhoods where you can walk to commercial amenities. It may be an older part of town or it may be a subdivision near a mall or strip mall. The whole city does not have to have a high walk score for you to find a walkable place to live.
That's fine. And I get that. I really do.
But when people want to live "somewhere warm" for the "weather", but the dominant/preferred form of transportation is a personal automobile, then why even look at the "Sun Belt"? Most of those people are going to be in a climate controlled environment for a majority of the time anyways, so why move to the "Sun Belt"?
Why not look at the places that already offer realistic ways to get around besides cars for your day to day needs?
The weather is "good", right? Why not be out in it as much as possible?
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