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Old 11-09-2007, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Texas
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yes it was brat!
No it wasn't (love how you start name calling).
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:05 PM
 
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streetcred...you will just have to take my word for it...Columbus is a great, growing city (growing faster than Louisville metro wise) but its downtown development is not in a league with Louisville at this point. Columbus does not have 2.1 billion in current construction downtown, plus 3 billion more planned. Compare a night in the Arena District in Columbus to a night at 4th street Live in Louisville, and you will realize difference. Furthermore, Fourth Street in Louisville is being expanded with retail and more residential highrises. Louisville has much more than a 62 story in high rise construction. Twin 16 story towers are going up, a 12 story is going up, and two 20 story condo buildings are planned. Like Columbus, nearly every building downtown is being rehabbed and becoming mixed used. Developments like this are a dime a dozen here now:
Fleur de Lis on Main - The Cornerstone of Downtown Living

In the end, Louisville and Columbus are very similar. Both are about as large as a college town can get. Columbus has the Short North and Louisville has the Highlands. Columbus has German Village and Louisville has Germantown. Columbus has the Arena District and Louisville has 4th Street and soon, the Center City District.

By the way, I was in Columbus almost a year ago and the Minerva looked complete then, is it still under construction?
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:14 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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miami, no Doubt! it is having the 2nd most construction of skyscrapers on earth after Dubai!

Chicago, Atlanta, and New York are also having Huge construction booms
Yet there all EMPTY. It is one of the worst condo markets in the country and the keep building more. Why???
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Old 11-09-2007, 07:25 PM
 
Location: San Antonio North
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No it wasn't (love how you start name calling).
Like all things once it is finished it will be apart of downtown.
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:01 PM
 
Location: moving again
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Yet there all EMPTY. It is one of the worst condo markets in the country and the keep building more. Why???
So What if they are not full, that doesn't mean that (skyscraper-wise) downtown Miami isn't growing!
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Old 11-09-2007, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Like all things once it is finished it will be apart of downtown.
Different districts. If the City of San Antonio starts labeling as Downtown, then yeah, your right. Being next to each other doesn't make it Downtown. Midtown Houston is just across the freeway from Downtown Houston, but both are different.
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Old 11-10-2007, 12:27 AM
 
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Different districts. If the City of San Antonio starts labeling as Downtown, then yeah, your right. Being next to each other doesn't make it Downtown. Midtown Houston is just across the freeway from Downtown Houston, but both are different.

This is inside the freeway and is downtown, across the freeway then your in midtown S.A.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA / Los Angeles, CA
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And that is where I think you are flat out wrong, maybe you have read more national press releases, or you see more attention for those cities on these kind of sites, but MANY metros under 3 million are seeing massive urban growth. Columbus can fit right into the growth of Louisville, Austin, or Nashville, you just haven't researched whats going on in Columbus, thus your only uninformed. And it doesn't stop at Columbus, Charlotte is under 3million and is seeing a lot of growth, Raleigh is, Indianapolis is, its not just 3 metros under 3 million, theres many growing metros in that range with downtown growth.



Columbus has condo tower infill all over the central city. Just because Columbus doesn't have one 62 story tall tower doesn't mean that the city isn't seeing a major downtown growth pattern. If you added up all of the other infill and smaller towers they would be of that same unit value of a 62 story tower. A 62 story tower is not the only sign of downtown population gain.

As do many other growing cities, from 02 to now Columbus' downtown population did increase by 1,000. Many cities around the US are seeing the same growth.

And this has happened in a lot of other downtown. I still don't consider these places the "most" booming downtowns in the US though. That still goes to the central cities of maybe Atlanta or Charlotte. I don't know if Austin's downtown construction is really enough of a boom, its still pretty residential based, a boom needs Corporate relocations, and new office, only highrises. I still don't think Louisville, Denver, or Columbus, although seeing downtown growth, are booming in downtown on all levels office, retail, residential, and at a massive rate nationally.

Here is a site with a pretty good run down Of Columbus' developments,
Central & Southeast Ohio Projects & Construction

Some Columbus central city/downtown infill that's been built since 02 or later

This condo tower is in the finishing phase, it sits in the Arena District




This is a 22 story condo tower, Miranova (on the right):

http://urbanohio.com/gallery/cache/Central%20Ohio/Columbus/Skyscrapers/IMG_1757.jpg_595.jpg (broken link)



And there's many like this in mid-rise category
Caryles Watch
http://www.urbanohio.com/forum2/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1911.0;attach=3473 ;image (broken link)

And this is an example of a turn of the century mid-rise that is an office/condo redo, the building was empty for years before this remodel. There's many like this around downtown as well.



This is a condo infill in Columbus' Short North


And then you have massive infill projects, that take up whole city blocks like this one called the "South Campus Gateway"






The Arena District is sq. miles of urban infill that's based around Columbus' downtown NHL arena, its mixed use, and isn't proposed but was built totally out of scratch, minus one or two buildings that were a reuse.
Apartments to the very back, retail to your right, and offices above,




Cleverly placed Apartment infill in the Arena District, Arena Crossing



Office/retail infll on a park, in the Arena District


The arena


Residential Condos in the Arena District


OF course Columbus has many warehouse conversions on going...
This is the Buggyworks


Redone department store into offices, back downtown




60 spring infill


The Brunson Infill



Short North Infill


This is now condos/and apartments, its quite a large older building, was once a hotel


Now condos, rehab project


This one's actually a 70s office conversion




There is a lot of brown field rebuilding in central columbus, this entire mining site is now rehabs and a complete new build muilt-use project, there's a lot of this going on in central Chicago too, entire industrial site conversion is very interesting I think, there's several large projects like this going in central Columbus






Ohio Loft, mixed use
BEFORE

AFTER



And as you tell i have stuck to only some of what has been built, this is some of what's coming
Time Tower, next condo tower infill over 20 stories
http://cll.bizjournals.com/story_image/82939-400-0.jpg?rev=2 (broken link)

As you can tell the list can go on and on, I have barely scratched the surface of Columbus' urban infill of today, and it's the same with many other central cities around America.
wow.........look at Columbus. (looking pretty sexy over there in Ohio)

I believe you guys have a major league soccer team,.......Seattle just got one today, to start this season. So maybe I'll be exposed to Columbus a little more..........I'll have to check you guys out when you play the Galaxy in L.A. also.

Your city looks very good, thanks for sharing.
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:03 AM
 
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I'm very impressed with Columbus!
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Old 11-10-2007, 02:16 AM
 
Location: Seattle, WA / Los Angeles, CA
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Hey streetcreed, .......do you have any pictures of the Columbus Skyline? I'd like to see that.

Also you are right.........there are other cities with major downtown building going on.

In L.A. they are doing it.

In Seattle, it is the most in the history of the city.......that is really saying something, because Seattle already has a big skyline, and it will be even bigger when all this construction is done. I'm talking dense dense and more dense with hi rise condo's and new coporate headquarters everywhere.

Miami is doing it.

Long Beach, down in L.A. is doing it.

Chicago is doing it etc.

There is a trend going on right now in alot of cities in the US.

People are wanting to live in the urban core.
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