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Nashville has Murfreesboro, with more than 111,000. It's more of an exurb than suburb, though.
Was Erie given away to NY or something?
Allentown as well.
Greece is the second biggest suburban town in Upstate NY. As far as ratio, Colonie has a little over 79,000 people and the second biggest municipality in the Albany-Schenectady-Troy area. Albany has around 97,000 people and Colonie is the 4th biggest suburb in Upstate NY. Outside of Binghamton, the town of Union has more people than Binghamton, but includes the villages of Endicott and Johnson City, as well as Endwell(cdp). It is a little over 56,000 for Union and a little over 47,000 for Binghamton.
I am not sure Las Vegas has any suburbs. It does have three component cities...but that which is "Las Vegas" is much more Clark County or at least a geographic part thereof. . All of the component cities are within Clark County. The schools and health district are in fact part of the state government.
How does one define a suburb? Can you be a suburb while part of the overall governing municipality?
Perhaps the term loses all meaning when dealing with a Las Vegas...maybe true in LA as well.
Thats it.
The Woodlands and Pear Land are both about 94K
Katy Area is estimated at 260,000 people http://www.katychamber.com/portals/0...hot%202008.pdf
The Spring Area is another huge one that is just a mass of unincorporated area
so the Real list for Houston would probably be:
1. Houston
2. Katy
3. Spring
4. The Woodlands
5. Pearland
6. Cypress
7. Atascocita
all having a huge population served but large unincorporated populations
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... well that's a damn lie.
Arlington, Plano, and Irving may have somewhat of their own identities and even hold some very important things in the area like Fortune 500 Companies, but they're still dependent of Dallas and Fort Worth for several things and have grown because of the cities, more Dallas than Fort Worth since most of the suburbs are on the east side of the Metroplex. Arlington COULD be considered an independent city, but still has no public transportation what so ever. Hell, Denton has its own public transportation and it's really a small town, not so much a suburb (I guess it would be what Katy is to Houston now), as for the other 3, yeah, they're just suburbs. Period.
If it is what Katy is to Houston, then it is all burb.
Katy is just miles and miles of burb, with no true center of commerce.
I see Katy more as an Arlington with less activity (No Ball park, no six flags, much fewer hotels, etc but miles and miles of homes and very few buses)
# 8 and 9 barely missed the cut by a few hundred people so I just included them anyways.
While these cities may all be in the MSA or CSA or New York City, most of them are never considered suburbs of the city itself in the commonly understood, everyday sense of the term, i.e. a place where people live and commute to a city for work, and where most of the local economy is driven by activity elsewhere.
The cities in red, at least in the NYC metro are not considered 'the burbs. Newark is a city (though a struggling one) in its own right, with its own suburbs. And very few people make regular commuting trips from New Haven or Bridgeport to NYC. Its just too far.
The cities in orange, Stamford and Jersey City are more properly what you might call "edge cities." They have their own major downtown districts, high rise housing, and strong local economies. While there are commuters to and from these spots, nobody who lives in either would ever say something like "Hey, I live in Jersey City. It's a suburb across the river from New York!"
I think the green cities, Paterson and Yonkers, are the only two that are over 100,000 that are what I'd call suburbs. Both are inner-ring type suburbs that have their share of problems with poverty, schooling, and the like, but both, while once thriving small cities, now have strong ties to New YOrk City where many residents work and go for entertainment.
Also, you forgot the biggest suburb of them all in Fort Worth. So Dallas has 12 total.
No, it's not.
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but New Haven is not a suburb of NYC.
