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Old 07-15-2013, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Sunbelt
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Places in the Midwest like Minneapolis and Indianapolis have all of those things. In fact, I believe Minneapolis currently has a lower unemployment rate, a similar cost of living, and is almost as diverse. Minneapolis has the largest population of Hmong people in the US. There are also a lot of Somali people in Minneapolis. Houston is more diverse in most of the major categories, like black, Hispanic, Asian (lots of Vietnamese people), etc. Minneapolis and Indianapolis also have the plus of a more educated population and higher per capita incomes.

I am usually very, VERY supportive of Texas on these forums, but facts are facts. There are cities doing equally as well or better than Houston in places other than Texas.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:47 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Places in the Midwest like Minneapolis and Indianapolis have all of those things. In fact, I believe Minneapolis currently has a lower unemployment rate, a similar cost of living, and is almost as diverse. Minneapolis has the largest population of Hmong people in the US. There are also a lot of Somali people in Minneapolis. Houston is more diverse in most of the major categories, like black, Hispanic, Asian (lots of Vietnamese people), etc. Minneapolis and Indianapolis also have the plus of a more educated population and higher per capita incomes.

I am usually very, VERY supportive of Texas on these forums, but facts are facts. There are cities doing equally as well or better than Houston in places other than Texas.
You may possibly also suffer from hypothermia and frost bite in Minneapolis half of the year as opposed to Houston you can comfortably wear jeans and a t-shirt in January and not have to worry about wearing 6 other layers of clothing.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:56 AM
 
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You may possibly also suffer from hypothermia and frost bite in Minneapolis half of the year as opposed to Houston you can comfortably wear jeans and a t-shirt in January and not have to worry about wearing 6 other layers of clothing.
Yeah, but you can also sweat your azz off and walk through air that feels like marinara sauce in the 1000% humidity on a 95 degree day in Houston for the other half of the year as opposed to Minneapolis you can comfortably wear a t-shirt and shorts in July without having to change clothes 3 times a day and worry if your deodorant is working.

Trust me, I grew up in Dallas. I love Texas. But the summer is way better in Minneapolis, and winter is better in Houston. You just have to decide which one you hate more: extreme heat or extreme cold.
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Old 07-15-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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You may possibly also suffer from hypothermia and frost bite in Minneapolis half of the year as opposed to Houston you can comfortably wear jeans and a t-shirt in January and not have to worry about wearing 6 other layers of clothing.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:18 AM
 
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Pretty much anywhere else.
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Old 07-16-2013, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Upper East Side of Texas
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Places in the Midwest like Minneapolis and Indianapolis have all of those things. In fact, I believe Minneapolis currently has a lower unemployment rate, a similar cost of living, and is almost as diverse. Minneapolis has the largest population of Hmong people in the US. There are also a lot of Somali people in Minneapolis. Houston is more diverse in most of the major categories, like black, Hispanic, Asian (lots of Vietnamese people), etc. Minneapolis and Indianapolis also have the plus of a more educated population and higher per capita incomes.

I am usually very, VERY supportive of Texas on these forums, but facts are facts. There are cities doing equally as well or better than Houston in places other than Texas.
Disagree on the higher per capita incomes.

In Houston your money will stretch far even if you're just working a $10.00 an hour job at Wal Mart. Food is cheap, gas is average, & housing is very affordable.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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You may possibly also suffer from hypothermia and frost bite in Minneapolis half of the year as opposed to Houston you can comfortably wear jeans and a t-shirt in January and not have to worry about wearing 6 other layers of clothing.
More people die from heat than cold.....FAR more people.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Disagree on the higher per capita incomes.

In Houston your money will stretch far even if you're just working a $10.00 an hour job at Wal Mart. Food is cheap, gas is average, & housing is very affordable.
I thought housing taxes were sky high in Houston and Texas in general, kind of offsetting the benefit of lower housing costs? Here in Cleveland, the median home value is in the low 100's, yet with taxes it often doubles the total cost of PITA and therefore my monthly home payment, making home ownership as expensive or moreso than many many other "less affordable" areas.
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Disagree on the higher per capita incomes.

In Houston your money will stretch far even if you're just working a $10.00 an hour job at Wal Mart. Food is cheap, gas is average, & housing is very affordable.
Per capita income =/= cost of living

You may not feel it is so, but Indianapolis and Minneapolis metro areas both have higher per capita incomes than Houston, regardless of COL.

Highest-income metropolitan statistical areas in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-16-2013, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Sunbelt
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Disagree on the higher per capita incomes.

In Houston your money will stretch far even if you're just working a $10.00 an hour job at Wal Mart. Food is cheap, gas is average, & housing is very affordable.
It's not really debatable. It's a fact. And aside from gas, food and housing is similarly priced in Houston and Minneapolis.

Here are the numbers for per capita income by metro: Wikipedia: Per Capita Income by Metro. #7 Minneapolis is at $26k, #34 Indianapolis at $23k, and #68 Houston at $21k.

Here are is a map for average single family home prices by metro: Map of Single Family Home Averages by metro. Houston is at $164k while Minneapolis is at $171k and Indianapolis is at $122k.
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