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Old 08-25-2013, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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I am curious about sites or blogs that tally latest homicide statistics by city (focus on medium and large cities only). Often, you only find homicide totals for a city for the prior year, and even that statistic is in news articles rather than in any official government site.

Some examples:

Chicago has two sites, the second of which is maintained by a private person, and which is actually much better than the official looking one.

Chicago, IL

Tracking homicides in Chicago - Tracking homicides in Chicago | RedeyeChicago.com

Chicago Murder, Homicide & Crime 2013 Stats | Chicago Murder, Crime & Mayhem | HeyJackass!


Detroit, MI

Crime Statistics | Police Department | City of Detroit | www.detroitmi.gov


Saint Louis, MO

St. Louis - News - Daily RFT


New Orleans, LA

Metro New Orleans Murders - NOLA.com


New York NY

http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloa...ics/cscity.pdf
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Old 08-25-2013, 07:20 PM
 
Location: ATL via ROC
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Rochester:

Rochester Homicides | rocdocs
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:23 PM
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Yikes, Detroit's year to date murder total is higher than NYC.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:32 PM
 
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Toronto Police Service :: To Serve and Protect
Interactive: Toronto homicides since 1990 | Toronto Star
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Old 08-28-2013, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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There's a blog that tallies Detroit and Baltimore's numbers as well as the dates, locations, and names of the victims of when each homicide took place. Detroit's list is actually more up to date than the police totals

Miscellaneous Posts: 2013 Detroit Homicides

Miscellaneous Posts: 2013 Baltimore City Homicides/Murders - List and Map

There's also a map and tally for homicides in Los Angeles County. Not sure if I've come across one for the City of LA specifically, but this is about the closest measure.

Homicide map - Homicide Report - Los Angeles Times
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Old 09-19-2013, 10:55 AM
 
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Not a link to current stats, but nevertheless related since the stats are for the latest full year.

Chicago now murder capital of U.S., FBI says

Cities with the most homicides in 2012

1. Chicago | 500
2. New York | 419
3. Detroit | 386
4. Philadelphia | 331
5. Los Angeles | 299
6. Baltimore | 219
7. Houston | 217
8. New Orleans | 193
9. Dallas | 154
10. Memphis | 133
11. Oakland | 126
12. Phoenix | 124
13. St. Louis | 113
14. Kansas City | 105
15. Indianapolis | 101

Source: FBI
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:08 AM
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Year to date, cities with most homicides. Not exactly comparable, as some cities stats are end at somewhat different times in September.

1. Chicago | 309
2. Detroit | 228
2. New York | 228
4. Los Angeles | 192
5. Philadelphia | 171
6. Baltimore | 167
7. Houston | 162
8. Dallas | 111
9. Indianapolis | 103
10. New Orleans | 99

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Old 09-19-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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Meaningless. Homicides statistics in all cities are variable by a ratio of at least 2:1 from year to year, and what they happen to be this year or this month is a worse, not better, indicator than the average over a period of years.

For example, the last five reported years, Houston homicides have ranged from 198 to 377. It was 212 last year. This year, it is almost certain to be within but near the low end of that range, and it will be next year, too.

You might have reasons for want to track this particular statistic, but for general analysis of criminality and city comprisons, it means nothing. I have no problem with the reasons for your interest in gathering this data, but users of this forum are extremely gullible and analytical and illogical, and should not be misled into thinking that these statistics have any relevance.

Furthermore, this is a totally stupid piece of completely irresponsible journalism:
"Chicago now murder capital of U.S., FBI says", and is never quoted as saying that by the hack intern at the news site who stumbled across the data. It's no wonder so many peo0ple are so misinformed and disseminate so much fallacy online.
The FBI would never say anything that moronic. New Orleans, in the same year, had three times as many murders per capita. That would be like saying "New York is the Corn Flakes capital of the USA", just because more bowls of corn flakes are eaten every morning in New York than any other city.

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Old 09-19-2013, 11:16 AM
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Meaningless. Homicides statistics in all cities are variable by a ratio of at least 2:1 from year to year, and what they happen to be this year or this month is a worse, not better, indicator than the average over a period of years.
No, they don't. They vary maybe 30% year to year at most. For example:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin...urders_by_year

Ignoring 2012, within about 20% for the last decade.
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Old 09-19-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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No, they don't. They vary maybe 30% year to year at most. For example:

Timeline of New York City events, crimes and disasters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ignoring 2012, within about 20% for the last decade.
It's not hard to find examples bigger than that. St. Louis went 146-111-73 from '01 to '03. Pittsburgh went 78-39 from '08-'09. Variations of 20-30% are typical, and statistically significant enough to cast any single year into doubt..

Further complicating the reality is organized homicide. Boston police say 3/4 of all known homicides in the city are gang-related, which means a city's homicide statistics can rise or fall by as much as 50% simply on the basis of how hot the city's gang war happens to be at the moment. http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=26784

By the way, in Chicago, the "new murder capital", the number of murders has dropped significantly since the pre-2004 numbers, which were annually in the mid-600s, and according to your 2013 partials, likely to settle this year in the low 400s, which is average for the decade.

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