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I think Cincinnati's image gets warped by Cleveland somehow. Every time I tell people I live in Cincinnati while traveling they always say weird things like, "Have you been to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?" or "How's that river that caught on fire doing?" People don't seem to get that Cincinnati is over four hours driving distance from Cleveland and is VERY differently culturally. People also tend to lump Cincy in with the rest of the Midwest when it's actually much older than most Midwestern cities and gets a lot of its cultural traits from the South. People like to harass me for comparing Cincinnati to New Orleans, but I honestly believe they're very similar in their provincialism, cultural disparity from the rest of the US, and collections of unique historic architecture. It's certainly more comparable to New Orleans than Cleveland.
Doesn't seem much older than St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, Louisville, and Minny. I didn't look at each city and see when it was founded but the Midwest does have some pretty old cities.
Cincy seems like it would be the New Orleans of Ohio as far as it's history but I don't understand how you say it has more in common with New Orleans than Cleveland.
I would Have to say that Chicago (out of south side), is Certainly not the Detroit that people think it is, if anything, the good parts of Chicago are booming with income values, and construction, as well as rapid gentrification. And on top of that, a growing population.
Also, I think Richmond is extremely mis reflected. For one, we may have had the seat of the confederacy, but we are in no way culturally the capitol of the south that people think we are. Accents here are not quite as southern (exept for a few "y'all"s and things) as most places in the south. Ontop of that, richmond seems way too liberal for the south (beating another myth that we are very conservative). Even when it comes to architecture richmond is more northern leaning we have row houses, brownstones, and even our avenue built in recognition to confederate generals looks like it might as well have been in any major northern city.
Doesn't seem much older than St. Louis, Chicago, Milwaukee, Cleveland, Detroit, Louisville, and Minny. I didn't look at each city and see when it was founded but the Midwest does have some pretty old cities.
Cincy seems like it would be the New Orleans of Ohio as far as it's history but I don't understand how you say it has more in common with New Orleans than Cleveland.
Cincinnati was America's first boomtown and was dancing with New Orleans to be the 5th largest city in the country for the first half of the 19th Century as they are both VERY important river cities. New Orleans connect the river system to the Gulf and Cincinnati connected the river system to the Great Lakes. By the time the railroads showed up, the rest of the Midwestern cities overtook both cities in population by leaps and bounds. As a result both New Orleans and Cincinnati are old, densely built, river cities with a lot of culture and relaxed attitude.
Cleveland was part of that later boom and went on to be a large steel town. It's got a LOT more in common with Great Lakes cities like Buffalo, Milwaukee, and Chicago than it does with Cincinnati. Cleveland is home to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Cincinnati is not a Rock and Roll town AT ALL. In fact, Cincinnati is home to the (understandably less well known) Classical Music Hall of Fame.
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I would Have to say that Chicago (out of south side), is Certainly not the Detroit that people think it is, if anything, the good parts of Chicago are booming with income values, and construction, as well as rapid gentrification. And on top of that, a growing population.
Also, I think Richmond is extremely mis reflected. For one, we may have had the seat of the confederacy, but we are in no way culturally the capitol of the south that people think we are. Accents here are not quite as southern (exept for a few "y'all"s and things) as most places in the south. Ontop of that, richmond seems way too liberal for the south (beating another myth that we are very conservative). Even when it comes to architecture richmond is more northern leaning we have row houses, brownstones, and even our avenue built in recognition to confederate generals looks like it might as well have been in any major northern city.
While Charleston and Savannah are often touted for their architecture, Richmond often gets overlooked. It has some beautiful historic neighborhoods.
Kansas City - the perception is that it's Kansas. Some flat far, city. Nope. Brick buildings, hill, gothic architecture, and very French feel overall. Really unique designs for the city too. Lots of fountains giving it a European look and feel in certain areas like the Plaza. It's one of the most architecturally unique cities I've been to, and I've been to many cities.
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No other city comes remotely close to the screwed up image problem that KC has and now that I live on the east coast, the reality of how people imagine KC has been validated.
Sure most other cities have "some" image problems. But when you get past about 100 miles from KC, very few people have a clue about the place and most people just attach vague "Kansas" stereotypes to the city when the city is really absolutely nothing like any of the general images of Kansas.
And the "city" is not even in Kansas, something that 90% of the population of the USA does not know. But even the Kansas suburbs around KC are just nothing like what people imagine. Overland Park for example looks like something you would find in suburban Chicago, DC, LA, Atlanta, Dallas etc. It's just a built up typical big-city corporate suburb, something that most people don't think could exist in Kansas for some reason.
Detroit. Yes it has problems, but it is far from the wasteland the media portrays. It is actually a very cool city to visit and it has some amazing areas.
This. A lot of posters say "at least my city doesn't look like Detroit," but Detroit doesn't look like what most people think Detroit looks like either.
In fact, from random Google street views, Detroit generally either seems like a older boring suburb or a small town that is hanging on to a few business but has seen better days.
@LovinDecatur. Downtown Richmond is cool -- fine old homes, Monument Ave., historic cemeteries -- but it's simply not in Savannah's and Charleston's class in terms of architectural preservation. Charleston dates from the 17th century, Savannah and Richmond from the 18th. However, Richmond (like Atlanta and Columbia) was pretty much annihilated toward the end of the Civil War. Charleston, Savannah, Boston, Phila., Mobile, and New Orleans really are in the topmost league nationally. Richmond is more in the 2nd league.
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@LovinDecatur. Downtown Richmond is cool -- fine old homes, Monument Ave., historic cemeteries -- but it's simply not in Savannah's and Charleston's class in terms of architectural preservation. Charleston dates from the 17th century, Savannah and Richmond from the 18th. However, Richmond (like Atlanta and Columbia) was pretty much annihilated toward the end of the Civil War. Charleston, Savannah, Boston, Phila., Mobile, and New Orleans really are in the topmost league nationally. Richmond is more in the 2nd league.
I don't disagree. Richmond doesn't appear to have organized their restoration efforts as well as these other cities. Nor does it seem to have marketed itself as a tourist destination as well, either. Too bad. Its got great bones.
Just got back from a vacation in central Florida where we were asked frequently where we were from. Unfortunately the response of "Cincinnati" was usually met with a blank stare or an "oh, ok" response. Though admittedly I never said much in response to Connecticut or Raleigh etc. either when I asked where they were from. Our country is maybe just too big for anything but the exceptional cities to get the general population's recognition for anything outside of a person's immediate region. Of course the exceptional cities (and maybe that one in Michigan that has fallen upon hard times) tend to be all the national media wants to focus on. To me places like Austin and Portland are the Kardashians of urban recognition, way way over hyped
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