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Old 11-18-2007, 02:39 PM
 
Location: the midwest
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Compared to the rest of the nation, Northeasterners do have a tendency to be rude and inconsiderate.

I was shocked at how impatient people were in New York, and they don't even hold doors for you!
You would be holding the door for hours if you tried. Trust me, it happened to me last week in NYC. I was just trying to be a polite, mid-western lad, and ended up waiting while an entire stampede exited the building. After that, I decided to roll NY-style and let the door slam in peoples faces. But then I was constantly looking over my shoulder an appologizing, which only caused disruptions to the flow of pedestrian traffic. I came to the conlusion that New Yorkers are New Yorkers out of necessity. You can't stop to be polite or you jeopardize the workings of that dynamic city of 8 million people.

By the way, I've only ever come in contact with one rude New Yorker in all the time I've spent there. She completely ignored me when I asked her how to get to Broadway. But I wasn't too upset about it. It was just funny to us...
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:42 PM
 
Location: the midwest
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Scranton, PA: Rusted-out, declined, ugly, dirty, decaying, behind the times, backwards, uneducated, dorky (thanks to "The Office"), insular
Minus the references to The Office, the same could be said about Youngstown, Ohio.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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You would be holding the door for hours if you tried. Trust me, it happened to me last week in NYC. I was just trying to be a polite, mid-western lad, and ended up waiting while an entire stampede exited the building. After that, I decided to roll NY-style and let the door slam in peoples faces. But then I was constantly looking over my shoulder an appologizing, which only caused disruptions to the flow of pedestrian traffic. I came to the conlusion that New Yorkers are New Yorkers out of necessity. You can't stop to be polite or you jeopardize the workings of that dynamic city of 8 million people.

By the way, I've only ever come in contact with one rude New Yorker in all the time I've spent there. She completely ignored me when I asked her how to get to Broadway. But I wasn't too upset about it. It was just funny to us...

You can't take for granted in NYC everyone speaks English. You can't go by race, like Caribbean Black or other Hispanic, Latino, many whites do not, they are Russian, Polish, Ukranian, Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Italian, German, can be anything, residents or visiting or working at the UN or big foreign banks or whatever. I'm talking about the real things here, fresh, not Americans just simply saying of a certain 'ancestry'. These are people directly to and from EU and elsewhere. You're not in Kansas anymore when you're in NYC.


People are often in groups, so if you hold the door they might all follow one and continue to enter, by then you're dealing with another group, and part of the problem is not just the population coming and going but also on the smaller scale things are built. Entrances are limited, many have one or two doors open, everything is cramped, limited space and they make it that way.
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Old 11-18-2007, 02:55 PM
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If I held the door each time I walked through one, I'd never get anywhere. Granted it is nice when a door is held for you on occasion, but it is certainly something I've never expected and I find it funny when people judge an entire city/state/region of the country based on whether or not they get the door held for them wherever they go.

What I find really annoying is the person 50 feet ahead of me who thinks they are being nice by holding the door for me making me hustle to get through it. Just let the door go and let me get there in my own time, by holding it you are just making things awkward.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Marshall-Shadeland, Pittsburgh, PA
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What I find really annoying is the person 50 feet ahead of me who thinks they are being nice by holding the door for me making me hustle to get through it. Just let the door go and let me get there in my own time, by holding it you are just making things awkward.
Wow. I do this all the time, and I never quite saw it from the perspective of the other person having to feel awkward and hustle. Thanks for enlightening me, as I'll stop doing this now.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Triangle, North Carolina
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Baltimore : See Detroit

(i know its not the midwest)
Atlanta: See Detriot.
It's the south but also parallel to Columbus, OH so it could be Midwestsoutheast
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:05 PM
 
Location: the midwest
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You can't take for granted in NYC everyone speaks English. You can't go by race, like Caribbean Black or other Hispanic, Latino, many whites do not, they are Russian, Polish, Ukranian, Hungarian, Swedish, Norwegian, Italian, German, can be anything, residents or visiting or working at the UN or big foreign banks or whatever. I'm talking about the real things here, fresh, not Americans just simply saying of a certain 'ancestry'. These are people directly to and from EU and elsewhere. You're not in Kansas anymore when you're in NYC.

I see your point. However, this woman was coming out of one of the buildings near Wall Street and she looked very American business-womanish. And even if she didn't speak English, she still was rude! She could have muttered something in her native language to indicate that she didn't understand.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:09 PM
 
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I don't know about San Francisco being slow-paced like the OP said. It's very competitive and cutthroat in SF's professional realm, and people hustle as much as anywhere... the indie, slow paced stuff only happens on people's days off. I might even say it's faster paced than LA, it's just not being done at 100mph in your car on a freeway.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Phoenix: A bit of everything here.

Flagstaff: 'Liberal' and 'Conservative' at the same time.

Tucson: heavy Mexican influence and old 'Anglo' money in the foothills.
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Old 11-18-2007, 05:30 PM
 
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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I see your point. However, this woman was coming out of one of the buildings near Wall Street and she looked very American business-womanish. And even if she didn't speak English, she still was rude! She could have muttered something in her native language to indicate that she didn't understand.
Well yeah they can certainly very well be. Often I might ask someone something too, they often just stare with a "s***t eating grin" bc they don't understand what you said in English. Often they don't need to know English, if you notice vitals such as cash atms, subway card machines are in selective languages. Among their groups they virtually operate within their own transplanted cultures. It was that way where I attended a Univ in the city in classes and labs.

People tend to flow toward their own groups linguistically. But most still know some or plenty of English. However, just bc someone is black it doesn't mean they know English like American black, often it's Spanish for Dominican, Puerto Rican, etc, French for Haitian and Dutch or French for the Guyanas, Martinique, Aruba, etc.

The city is checkerboard. Even Americans traveling in groups forget to say thank you bc they're trying to stick together and not get lost. If you hold the door in many places you'll be standing there forever without a notice as most people are in panic mode. They call that New York, it's a maelstrom. Everyone should it experience it at least one year out of their lives. But like everything else it gets old.

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