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Location: somewhere between Florida and New England
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Originally Posted by The_Fairfaxian
I'm not arguing that not making eye-contact and not saying 'hello' is rude. I can understand how those things are not efficient in the sense of time. However, making the antisocial gestures is something commonplace, even in a rushed place like where I am. And the rudeness just doesn't occur when one's busy or rushing to get from Point A to Point B.
Define "antisocial gesture" for me. I'm not quite sure what you're referring to.
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Originally Posted by The_Fairfaxian
Have you been to the Washington DC area? Maybe we're not as big as the NYC Tristate, but DC and its suburbs are hardly considered "small towns"
Yes, I am originally from the DC area - I moved to southwestern Connecticut. The DC area has many cultural differences from the New York area. One of the main differences, though I may be straying from the topic at hand, is modesty. New York doesn't have the 30k millionaires that are so prevalent in the DC area. Last time I visited Northern Virginia, the neighbors of a cluster-home area were so incredibly snobby, boasting that their homes cost in upwards of $500k when in southwestern CT, the same home on no land would be twice that amount. Only difference is, people in the NY area don't brag about money. Either you have it or you don't - it's not a daily topic of discussion. Personally, I find the consistent bragging about money (especially when you don't have it, and you live in those cluster-homes with brick fronts and vinyl siding rears) incredibly rude.
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Originally Posted by The_Fairfaxian
Trust me when I say the rude looks ans gestures can come from individuals when they're even in the most comfortable of situations. When it comes to meeting people, individuals in this region tend to be the most standoffish and unwilling. But in general, it's these same individuals who are the extreme A-Types that will try to get the most attention in the most obnoxious and arrogant ways.
Unwilling for what? Sure, maybe you're right when describing north Jersey, but have you been to Westchester County, Fairfield County and upper Manhattan? Folks in these areas are very conservative, reserved, classy people who don't brag about their wealth (even if they're the wealthiest of them all). Some of the richest families I've come across in Connecticut drive Volvo station wagons or a 1989 Mercedes that's been very well maintained.
I see what you mean by standoffish. But, really, open your eyes and realize that these people live in one of the most populated areas on the planet. There's a reason they're unwilling - New Yorkers see more and experience more than 99% of other Americans. They've seen the scumbags roaming the streets and in the subways and find it hard to trust people. It's not the small town (yes, small town) in MD or VA where everyone knows everyone and if you don't, you stop and say hello. Up here in the NYC area, I've noticed, once you open up to someone and engage in conversation, it's more meaningful, trusting and genuine than most conversations I've had while living in DC. I don't understand what you mean by those looking for attention because frankly I don't see much of it in Connecticut and Westchester County.
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And as for the picture of the guys and girls at the bar w/ the greased hair and slutty clothing, that basically sums up how people are every weekend (and most weekday nights) at the university I attend.
Those guys hardly represent the NY area. Again, it's more Jersey kids who are like that - maybe Long Island as well. If any kid walked into a restaurant or bar with that hairdo in Connecticut (30 miles north of Manhattan), heads would turn and they would be the outcasts. Sorry you have to attend college with them. But tell me, if you've met them, where are they from? My guess is LI and NJ.
LOL, I think it's fair to say that there's arrogance on both sides of the Potomac. (And I think it's good natured, too. There's no real tension.)
Let's remember that this thread's about stereotypes, not about true feelings. The stereotype that many Marylanders think they are better than Virginians is so well known that Washington Monthly Magazine devoted most of an issue and their cover to this subject. It was hilarious, and even had a 4-page spread listing all the possible pros and cons of each side. Go to your local library and check it out, it's classic.
But Northeastern people have the time to act rude and arrogant, give pompous and angry looks, and flick and curse anyone out for the most insignificant inconveniences. I can sort of understand how rushing for the sake of having a busy schedule can prohibit people enough time to be generous and can be misconceived as being rude, but if one is too busy being nice, shouldn't the same application apply of being too busy to be arrogant and hateful? Or is it just me who realizes this?
I think it's just you who realizes it... Or at least cares about it. Again, we're constantly around people. The last person we want to hold a door for is some dude in an Angels or Cardinals hat with a giant camera wrapped around his shoulder while holding a map with a stupid look on his face. We just don't have time, or we don't want to spend it doing that. lol I'm just kidding. But seriously, don't put a Cards or Angels hat on around me. Arghh
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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Originally Posted by normie
LOL, I think it's fair to say that there's arrogance on both sides of the Potomac. (And I think it's good natured, too. There's no real tension.)
Let's remember that this thread's about stereotypes, not about true feelings. The stereotype that many Marylanders think they are better than Virginians is so well known that Washington Monthly Magazine devoted most of an issue and their cover to this subject. It was hilarious, and even had a 4-page spread listing all the possible pros and cons of each side. Go to your local library and check it out, it's classic.
I recall being in the area when they did a talk show about it on the radio. A Marylander called in and said " I know you people in VA think we're all big drunks up here...!"
I think it's really a lot of wasted energy why they should do this, but you have to remember too that even within MD they stereotype terribly Baltimorons, like No VA try to do to Eastern VA.
I don't know how this tangential topic rose up but I jumped in with observations.
I do think it's rather pathetic that a national capital would busy itself so much with petty local squabbles, I always thought that much. There's really not much of that up here in NY/NJ everyone is given that NY is the dominant and Jersey revolves around it in the North and Phila in its South.
I don't know why still Baltimore would even try to compete with DC on a simliar note, it's really silly, very silly for them to do so.
LA/SF I can understand, Hou/Dal, yep, and so on. I've known many Marylanders who have actually settled in Va.
Also there is a lot of commercial play and real estate or development deals between firms in Balto and in Southeast Va.
But that experience also helped during the big blackout and power grid failure in the hot summer of 2003 not even two hours later. No one rioted, no one looted.
Yeah, they did. lol I remember walking by a shoe store during it... Broken windows.
When we vacationed in NYC recently, ditto. We were on the subway looking at a map, and someone asked us where we were going, then told us which stop we needed to use.
Wow. As a native NYer, that amazes me. But I guess you'll find good people anywhere.
Location: Uniquely Individual Villages of the Megalopolis
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Yeah, they did. lol I remember walking by a shoe store during it... Broken windows.
I shouldn't have said "no one". But incidents were very minimal and the figures low to make it seem relatively or virtually no one. By and large, well you know whatamean.
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