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Old 07-24-2016, 09:11 AM
 
Location: A Yankee in northeast TN
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The gulf coast and coastal plain of the southeast all have very similar climate and summers, you don't have the elevation differences and microclimates that we do out west
Yes, but this guy likes to argue that the 'daily summer showers' and the ocean breezes keep thing cool, but those are things that affect only a tiny portion of the coastal south.
If you didn't know better you could get the impression that the whole southeast was a like big tropical island suitable for hanging out in a hammock while balmy breezes keep you comfy, especially after those afternoon showers (when in fact those showers often make it feel even more sticky afterword)
I especially like how he talks up Houston as being a weather paradise when they consistantly have a heat index of 100 degrees or more.
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Yes, but this guy likes to argue that the 'daily summer showers' and the ocean breezes keep thing cool, but those are things that affect only a tiny portion of the coastal south.
If you didn't know better you could get the impression that the whole southeast was a like big tropical island suitable for hanging out in a hammock while balmy breezes keep you comfy, especially after those afternoon showers (when in fact those showers often make it feel even more sticky afterword)
I especially like how he talks up Houston as being a weather paradise when they consistantly have a heat index of 100 degrees or more.
The worst part is the amount of water vapor in the air, Houston has an AVERAGE dew point of 74° in July!
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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More worster????
Oops, I meant most worstest.
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Old 07-24-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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The gulf coast and coastal plain of the southeast all have very similar climate and summers, you don't have the elevation differences and microclimates that we do out west
Well there are mountains in the South, but overall yes the South is more homogenous in climate than us in the other South.

Honestly high elevations, very high elevations, in tropical climate is one of the best climates on Earth. When I went to Malaysia I went to a botanical garden that was high up in the jungle on the mountains on the Malaysia/Indonesia border in Borneo, some of the best weather ever.

But the coast itself? Very hot and humid.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:13 PM
 
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So constant banning and creating new accounts to try to troll others into thinking the South is superior is logic-based and has nothing to do with bias or getting off on thinking you live in the best region in the country? Only on CD....
I don't have any clue what you are talking about. All I know is I made my claim, and put forth facts to back it up. Thus, you have no case.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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You live in Saint Louis so you really don't have room to talk.
It's both hot and very humid there.
Your point being? Yes it's very hot and humid here. I can't stand it. I'm hardly ever outdoors for that reason.
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Old 07-24-2016, 04:22 PM
 
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And you are correct we do have heat advisory warnings. And a simple Google temp search tells it all. We are constantly having 100 % humid days that's nothing and the heat index for 92 degree temps are easily over 105 degrees. While it was 114 in Phoenix today it was 90 in Mobile with a heat index of 110 and that is fact .
Stop with this nonsense. Humidity levels are not at 100% when the temperatures are at their highest; relative humidity decreases with increasing temperature. Instead, when it is 92F out, levels will be more like in the mid 50% - 60% range.

You also don't have heat advisory conditions in Mobile every summer day; 110F heat index is far above the criteria for heat advisory, so if it is a constant experience like you say, then such heat warnings will be present every day in Mobile. But they are not. So stop exaggerating.

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The fact that you make statements that pertain to a very limited area along the coastal south and imply that it applies to pretty much the entire southeast doesn't do your credibility much good. You have a very very narrow POV
The entire Southeast is more comfortable during summer than the desert southwest; areas away from the coast are, arguably, even more comfortable during summer (at least, in places like Appalachia, or the Piedmont).

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Originally Posted by DubbleT View Post
Yes, but this guy likes to argue that the 'daily summer showers' and the ocean breezes keep thing cool, but those are things that affect only a tiny portion of the coastal south.
If you didn't know better you could get the impression that the whole southeast was a like big tropical island suitable for hanging out in a hammock while balmy breezes keep you comfy, especially after those afternoon showers (when in fact those showers often make it feel even more sticky afterword)
I especially like how he talks up Houston as being a weather paradise when they consistantly have a heat index of 100 degrees or more.
Because Houston, and the Southeast have loads of features that help alleviate heat conditions; summer clouds, breeze, natural shade, etc.

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The worst part is the amount of water vapor in the air, Houston has an AVERAGE dew point of 74° in July!
So?
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Old 07-24-2016, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Stop with this nonsense. Humidity levels are not at 100% when the temperatures are at their highest; relative humidity decreases with increasing temperature. Instead, when it is 92F out, levels will be more like in the mid 50% - 60% range.

You also don't have heat advisory conditions in Mobile every summer day; 110F heat index is far above the criteria for heat advisory, so if it is a constant experience like you say, then such heat warnings will be present every day in Mobile. But they are not. So stop exaggerating.



The entire Southeast is more comfortable during summer than the desert southwest; areas away from the coast are, arguably, even more comfortable during summer (at least, in places like Appalachia, or the Piedmont).



Because Houston, and the Southeast have loads of features that help alleviate heat conditions; summer clouds, breeze, natural shade, etc.



So?
Dewpoints over 55° are considered slighty uncomfortable, dewpoints over 65° are considered muggy and dewpoints over 70° are oppressive. So Houston under normal conditions is oppressive EVERY DAY in July and August for sure. Right now, I am in Denton, TX, and it is 97 with a dewpoint of 70, and it does feel oppressive to me. I struggle with dewpoints over 60°
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:14 PM
 
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Dewpoints over 55° are considered slighty uncomfortable, dewpoints over 65° are considered muggy and dewpoints over 70° are oppressive. So Houston under normal conditions is oppressive EVERY DAY in July and August for sure. Right now, I am in Denton, TX, and it is 97 with a dewpoint of 70, and it does feel oppressive to me. I struggle with dewpoints over 60°
Depends on the standards; muggy air feels quite comfortable, especially with wind, just like a warm blanket.
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Depends on the standards; muggy air feels quite comfortable, especially with wind, just like a warm blanket.
What utter BS. Lived every Monday and Tuesday in DFW for a couple of years. You came out of doors to be met by the atmosphere...which immediately tries to destroy your lungs and well being. And I grew up in a similar climate so it did not panic me.

Let us not kid ourselves. Phoenix and DFW and Houston are survivable only with AC. We can argue which is worse but the fact is all would be tiny towns without significant population without AC. They are simply unlivable...

And that soup which passes for atmosphere in warm TX is simply the worst thing imaginable. Phoenix only approaches that level in a dust storm.
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