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Old 12-29-2013, 03:43 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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ALBANY — New York, whose status as the most populous state has long been ceded, will soon fall behind Florida into fourth place, a long-anticipated drop that is rife with symbolism and that could carry potentially serious economic consequences in coming years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/ny...&emc=rss&_r=1&
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:29 PM
 
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Yup, and North Carolina will pass Michigan.

I think after that though the top ten won't change for a few decades. Not at current growth rates at least.
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Old 12-29-2013, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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If Florida didn't slow down as much in the latter half of this past decade, they would be number three already.
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Old 12-30-2013, 02:51 AM
 
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If Florida didn't slow down as much in the latter half of this past decade, they would be number three already.
Sure would have. And I think the census estimates are too optimistic in their estimations. Upstate New York is still bleeding people immensely and where are they going? Florida! I bet Florida is number three already.

I don't blame them for moving. With the exception of New York City the state of New York kind of just sucks to live in.
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Old 12-30-2013, 06:33 AM
 
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I think in 20-30 years, Georgia and possibly Arizona will pass New York as well. Those states are growing rapidly as well.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:17 AM
 
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Sure would have. And I think the census estimates are too optimistic in their estimations. Upstate New York is still bleeding people immensely and where are they going? Florida! I bet Florida is number three already.

I don't blame them for moving. With the exception of New York City the state of New York kind of just sucks to live in.
Upstate NY losses were overestimated before the last census and some parts of Upstate NY actually saw growth, with most others staying flat, give or take. Cost of living overall is actually on par with Southern states like VA and NC in Upstate NY. FL actually lost people for a little while and when comparing some metrics, NY comes out ahead in comparison.

There is a pretty big gap between 4 and 5. I'm not sure if GA and AZ will pass NY in 20-30 years, but they still have a ways to go. NY is just growing slower than other states.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Upstate NY losses were overestimated before the last census and some parts of Upstate NY actually saw growth, with most others staying flat, give or take. Cost of living overall is actually on par with Southern states like VA and NC in Upstate NY. FL actually lost people for a little while and when comparing some metrics, NY comes out ahead in comparison.

There is a pretty big gap between 4 and 5. I'm not sure if GA and AZ will pass NY in 20-30 years, but they still have a ways to go. NY is just growing slower than other states.
Yeah, it would be a huge achievement just for GA to pass PA or IL; no way AZ will do it anytime soon.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:39 AM
 
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Yeah, it would be a huge achievement just for GA to pass PA or IL; no way AZ will do it anytime soon.
Exactly and people are forgetting about the retirement aspect with FL. People also forget that unlike FL, the NYC metro spills over into NJ and CT. So, moving to the suburbs could mean leaving NY State too.
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Old 12-30-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Calera, AL
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I think in 20-30 years, Georgia and possibly Arizona will pass New York as well. Those states are growing rapidly as well.
Arizona has 1/3 of the population of New York. Considering its location, water will be a huge issue somewhere down the road. Perhaps that can be remedied in time, but I don't see Arizona overtaking NYS for at least a century, if ever.

Georgia could overtake NYS, but it will be much more than 20-30 years as well. No state can keep up breakneck growth forever.
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Old 12-30-2013, 08:45 AM
 
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ALBANY — New York, whose status as the most populous state has long been ceded, will soon fall behind Florida into fourth place, a long-anticipated drop that is rife with symbolism and that could carry potentially serious economic consequences in coming years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/27/ny...&emc=rss&_r=1&
Yes, in that it's transplanting those that cannot hack the cost of living in NY to a state with a perceived "better lifestyle". Meanwhile Florida's growth in low wage jobs and lack of higher paying jobs cannot sustain the population influx, meaning yet another transition for many upon that realization.
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