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Nowhere. But there's nowhere else in the northeast like that either. San Francisco could probably stand up pretty well to Boston in "urbanity", density and transit.
Idaho, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, the Dakotas, Nebraska, Kansas, Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri all have four distinct seasons, also northern Arizona and New Mexico.
History is everywhere. California has a long history of Spanish settlement, ditto Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado. Idaho and Oregon have the Lewis and Clark exploration history; Oregon has a history of Spanish exploration as well. Washington has a history of Spanish exploration in the 1700s also Lewis and Clark. If you include all the states west of the Mississippi, there's the whole westward expansion, the Homestead Act, the sod-busters of the Great Plains, "Bleeding Kansas.Many of these states sent soldiers to fight in the Civil War.
etc, etc: Wyoming gave women the vote in 1869 and entered the union in 1890 with women voting. It's nickname is "The Equality State". Put that in your pipe and smoke it, easterners! Colorado was the first STATE to give women the vote in 1893. Utah and Idaho gave women the vote in 1896. Washington State in 1910, Californiain 1911, Oregon, Kansas, and Arizona in 1912, Alaska (not yet a state) and Illinois in 1913, Montana and Nevada in 1914, New York in 1917; Michigan, South Dakota, and Oklahoma in 1918.
NY still has a rich women's history from Susan B. Anthony, Matilda Joslyn Gage, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Elizabeth Blackwell and Sarah Loguen, among others. It is no accident that the Women's Hall of Fame is in Seneca Falls, NY, as a lot of those involved in women's suffrage were from or lived in NY.
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Nowhere. But there's nowhere else in the northeast like that either.
Thank you. Nowhere in the West compares to any of my points. There is no NYC, no equivalent seasons, no equivalent history, transit, universities, etc.
I think this is the dumbest argument yet on this thread.
A brand new suburb of Phoenix has exactly the same history as Rome, Athens, and Istanbul, because they're all located on the same planet, which has the exact same age...
Ah, you must be from New York. Greatest city in the world, amirite?
Thank you. Nowhere in the West compares to any of my points. There is no NYC, no equivalent seasons, no equivalent history, transit, universities, etc.
End of thread.
So your answer to the OP's question is NYC?
And there is transit, universities, and seasons. You are defining history by American history. But Western states have a long history of Spanish, Russian, and Native American influence. I guess it's not talked about much in the NE.
Thank you. Nowhere in the West compares to any of my points. There is no NYC, no equivalent seasons, no equivalent history, transit, universities, etc.
But none of those get NYC's summer humidity! Or the joy of an urban heat island giving you 80F at midnight*. Or as frequent heavy rains! Or beaches warm enough to swim in! And the rare hurricane!
*Add no air conditioning in an apartment for the most authentic experience. If it's a late spring heatwave, 5 miles closer to the water might be 15F cooler from an ocean breeze. Later into the summer, humid air can do most of the job alone at keeping the nights warm.
They. all. have. seasons. I included a city from EVERY STATE in the mountain west and west coast. I didn't list the states b/c I want my friend Standard111 to figure them out for himself. And heck, we get extreme thunderstorms and hail storms, tornadoes, blizzards the likes of which NYC rarely sees. It can be 80 and humid at midnight in Omaha. I've been there.
I know they all have seasons, I didn't say they didn't have seasons [see my post], I was listing some "great things" the Northeast has that the West Coast. You didn't list Omaha, all of the cities you list are west of the summer humidity zone.
The issue was seasons, not humidity. I didn't include Omaha b/c I was doing mountain and west coast states, but when you brought up humidity I pointed out that Omaha is humid. So is KC. Just for that:
https://weatherspark.com/averages/31...-United-States
**Omaha, Nebraska has a humid continental climate with hot summers and no dry season.Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 13°F to 88°F and is rarely below -4°F or above 96°F. **
https://weatherspark.com/averages/30...-United-States
**Kansas City, Missouri has a humid continental climate with hot summers and no dry season. Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 21°F to 90°F and is rarely below 5°F or above 99°F.**
https://weatherspark.com/averages/30...-United-States
**Minneapolis, Minnesota has a humid continental climate with hot summers and no dry season. Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 7°F to 83°F and is rarely below -11°F or above 92°F.**
https://weatherspark.com/averages/30...-United-States
Fargo, North Dakota has a humid continental climate with warm summers and no dry season. Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from -1°F to 83°F and is rarely below -20°F or above 91°F.**
https://weatherspark.com/averages/31...-United-States
**Pierre, South Dakota has a humid continental climate with hot summers and no dry season. Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 9°F to 90°F and is rarely below -11°F or above 101°F. **
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Reason: Add a few more cities
Here's how NYC and Denver compare in biggest snowstorms. Snow in NYC tends to be heavy, wet snow; I'd assume Denver might be the opposite and also windier? so more blizzard-like. NYC:
Denver is obviously more, but the gap isn't as big as you'd expect past the top 4 storms or so.
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