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For me, personally, you cannot be a real, true Southerner and be liberal. And I consider anyone to the left of Bill Clinton to be liberal. Obama is extremely liberal.
Hogwash. I've known hundreds of Southern liberals and you can't revoke their regional citizenship because they hold views with which you disagree.
All this "real Southerner," "real American" nonsense has to go. If you can't tolerate a difference of opinion than perhaps it is you who has no place in a free society.
Why do people constantly want The south to become less southern..
Because most transplants who move to the South don't want to assimilate into Southern culture and many Southern locals feel offended and even threatened by it.
Because most transplants who move to the South don't want to assimilate into Southern culture and many Southern locals feel offended and even threatened by it.
To be perfectly honest, this is understandable. Imagine if any major city in the U.S. not only got a large influx of foreign immigrants, but instead of the usual assimilation process within 2-3 generations, the immigrants expected American culture to fall to the wayside, and their own culture to become dominant. People would be outraged.
In a certain sense, you could say the rest of America is "colonizing" large parts of the South right now. But when it comes down to it, the same thing has happened everywhere from Vermont to San Francisco. It's just in those cases, the "colonizers" are much closer culturally to the "colonized."
Still, short of a state deciding to become an economic backwater like Mississippi, there's really nothing a southern state can do to stop the natural migration of northerners and international immigrants, which in turn will dilute old southern characteristics. Good or bad, the process is here to stay.
Traditional southern culture was small-town narrow, anti-intellectual, openly and rabidly racist, extremely religious, and politically conservative. To the degree that people in NC and VA (purple states now) are dropping these attitudes, it's all to the better. Immigration (domestic and international) and a younger population not hung up on race like its elders, are all changing NC and VA, especially in the citites and DC suburbs.
If that makes these states less "Southern" then I am the first to say "Hallelujah!"
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Blacks left the South where they were getting lynched to head for the North where they were billy-clubbed. So it's not like the North exactly welcomed them with open arms.
Traditional southern culture was small-town narrow, anti-intellectual, openly and rabidly racist, extremely religious, and politically conservative. To the degree that people in NC and VA (purple states now) are dropping these attitudes, it's all to the better. Immigration (domestic and international) and a younger population not hung up on race like its elders, are all changing NC and VA, especially in the citites and DC suburbs.
If that makes these states less "Southern" then I am the first to say "Hallelujah!"
Again, while due to my background, I'd be inclined to agree, you have to step back a second and realize what you're saying is in and of itself bigoted.
Think about it. Imagine someone going off on a tirade about Mexican culture, or Chinese culture, and coming to the same conclusions (the only way it will get better is if they accept outsider immigrants and "accept our culture") in the modern era, this would be considered borderline racist if said about another country - certainly xenophobic and retrograde. Unless it's said about the U.S. South.
Of course, maybe you're not a cultural relativist, like much of the left. Maybe you feel free to call out cultures which aren't your own when you think they're bad, no matter where you are in the world. But if you're the sort of person who doesn't think it's your place to decry other nation's cultures as being backwards and bigoted, you also shouldn't say the same thing about a culture in your own nation.
Blacks left the South where they were getting lynched to head for the North where they were billy-clubbed. So it's not like the North exactly welcomed them with open arms.
Yup, free labor was a big driving factor of the North's ambitions for abolition. It was never an innocent gesture of bi-racial equality, hence why the north's Republican party of 1859/1860 was trying to shake the "Black Republican" label that southern Democrats were tarnishing them with. Fast forward to today, and racism is still alive and well in plenty of northern cities, towns and rural communities.
Traditional southern culture was small-town narrow, anti-intellectual, openly and rabidly racist, extremely religious, and politically conservative. To the degree that people in NC and VA (purple states now) are dropping these attitudes, it's all to the better. Immigration (domestic and international) and a younger population not hung up on race like its elders, are all changing NC and VA, especially in the citites and DC suburbs.
If that makes these states less "Southern" then I am the first to say "Hallelujah!"
Northern Industrial cities were just as rabidly racist. Read what MLK said about Chicago. Also the South has changed a lot in regards to race relations because it was such a black eye, the North can still be very racist by comparison, especially between blacks and whites.
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