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DUH! Malaria and heat were killers back then. If they had the medicine and AC we do now I bet the north would never have been populated to begin with.
So you're saying the heat and mosquitos are merely insufferable rather than deadly. I guess that's an improvement, but it doesn't indicate that you trade the cold for something better.
Yeah, how is Canada even a country? How is Alaska even a state? What of Russia, China, etc.? How do they exist north of the wasteland that is the Twin Cities???
Minneapolis' latitude is north of Toronto. Most Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border.
I will point out that Sweden has a much different climate than the US. Average Weather For Stockholm, Sweden - WeatherSpark
**Over the course of a year, the temperature typically varies from 18°F to 74°F and is rarely below 6°F or above 80°F.**
DUH! Malaria and heat were killers back then. If they had the medicine and AC we do now I bet the north would never have been populated to begin with.
Because every human being throughout human history was exactly like you and only liked what you like, right?
Have you even considered the fact that most early settlers to this country were from northern European nations and were used to a climate similar to that in the northern U.S.? That they did extreme manual labor (hey, you try clearing hundreds of acres of mature woods to make farmland with no power equipment or motorized vehicles!) and quite possibly looked forward to a break from it during the winter months? Maybe it isn't coincidence that many Europeans who settled in the South used slave labor to do the hard outdoor labor. After all, even with modern AC, you still can't air condition the outdoors.
Somebody invented snow skiing, ice skating, and other outdoor winter activities that require snow and apparently enjoyed them enough that those activities are still with us and engaged in by throngs of people every year.
Personally, I think it's a beautiful thing to get up in the morning and sit on the sofa in my cozy house with a cup of coffee looking out at the snow, all the while knowing that I still have several months of beautiful temperate months of spring, summer, and fall to look forward to. But then...what do I know, right?
Because every human being throughout human history was exactly like you and only liked what you like, right?
Have you even considered the fact that most early settlers to this country were from northern European nations and were used to a climate similar to that in the northern U.S.? That they did extreme manual labor (hey, you try clearing hundreds of acres of mature woods to make farmland with no power equipment or motorized vehicles!) and quite possibly looked forward to a break from it during the winter months? Maybe it isn't coincidence that many Europeans who settled in the South used slave labor to do the hard outdoor labor. After all, even with modern AC, you still can't air condition the outdoors.
Somebody invented snow skiing, ice skating, and other outdoor winter activities that require snow and apparently enjoyed them enough that those activities are still with us and engaged in by throngs of people every year.
Personally, I think it's a beautiful thing to get up in the morning and sit on the sofa in my cozy house with a cup of coffee looking out at the snow, all the while knowing that I still have several months of beautiful temperate months of spring, summer, and fall to look forward to. But then...what do I know, right?
Even countries like France, Netherlands, Germany, Poland and Russia are COLD. They are more similar to upstate NY cities like Buffalo or Portland, ME. Or even Canadian cities like Toronto. In the summer, they only get a few months peaking at around 80 degrees at best.
Even countries like France, Netherlands, Germany, Poland and Russia are COLD. They are more similar to upstate NY cities like Buffalo or Portland, ME. Or even Canadian cities like Toronto. In the summer, they only get a few months peaking at around 80 degrees at best.
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read on here, and that's saying something.
I'm glad you think that.
My point in saying that "greenery is overrated" is that several people prefer cities like Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson, SLC, Reno...obviously if people are living in these areas willingly, then greenery isn't as important as some here are trying to make it.
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#4 is not quite true in the northeast. It's far less prevalent up here. We don't really have boulevards. We don't have NEARLY as many fast food restaurants, either, such as Chick-Fil-A, Hardees, Carl's Jr., Bojangles, Jack in the Box. NONE of that. All we have is McDonald's, BK, Wendy's, Subway and a few other minor ones. We don't have many of those spacious divided highways that are found down south.
#5. I have been to Phoenix twice. Yes, most of the area where people live is FLAT. There are mountains on the outer edge of the metro area, however. But they're mostly brown and dry looking.
#7. Greenery is not overrated. Why do you think all those desert metro areas (i.e. Denver, Vegas, Phoenix, etc.) put artificial grass on people's lawns all over the place, and trees that are not native to the area? Because they want GREEN, not BROWN.
#5. Alright, that's true. Phoenix does sit in a valley, so the area is mostly flat. The mountains are brown and dry looking. But many people like the desert look (including me), which is why a lot of people moved down there.
#7. When I was driving around Phoenix, I didn't see a lot of artificial grass unless it was a golf course. And the only trees I saw were cactus, palms, and some shorter shrubs. If you look on this street in Scottsdale you can see both grass and rocks/sand in people's lawn. When I say overrated, I mean that people are acting like it's a necessity when we can clearly see examples of people living without it. Personally, I'd rather have the rocks/sand. Less lawn mowing
There is a reason the most northerly large city in the US is Minneapolis (except for the west coast cities which have a different climate). It gets tough living farther north than that.
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Yeah, how is Canada even a country? How is Alaska even a state? What of Russia, China, etc.? How do they exist north of the wasteland that is the Twin Cities???
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Minneapolis' latitude is north of Toronto. Most Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border.
Russia is a bit of an exception, while Moscow isn't that extreme and a bit milder than Minneapolis, a large fraction of the population lives in Siberia, which is far colder. Only the Canadian Prairies compares.
How cold are Russia’s cities? A comparison with Canada and the United States is instructive. A list of the 100 coldest Russian and North American cities with populations of over 100,000 would have 85 Russian, 10 Canadian, and 5 U.S. cities. The first Canadian city to appear on the list (Winnipeg) would be in 22nd place. The coldest U.S. city (Fargo, North Dakota), would rank 58th. Americans are accustomed to thinking of Alaska as the ultimate cold region. But Anchorage, Alaska, would not appear on a list of the coldest Russian and North American cities of over 100,000 until position number 135, outranked by no fewer than 112 Russian cities. The explanation for this result is not that Alaska isn’t cold. It is, It’s just that Americans don’t build large cities there.
it argues that Russia has an unusually high amount of its population in inhospitably cold regions, mainly due to Soviet planning. And this produces a large cost burden on the country, besides added discomfort.
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Minneapolis' latitude is north of Toronto. Most Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border.
I was amused to find out that January 2009 here was colder than Moscow the same month.
Russia is a bit of an exception, while Moscow isn't that extreme and a bit milder than Minneapolis, a large fraction of the population lives in Siberia, which is far colder. Only the Canadian Prairies compares.
How cold are Russia’s cities? A comparison with Canada and the United States is instructive. A list of the 100 coldest Russian and North American cities with populations of over 100,000 would have 85 Russian, 10 Canadian, and 5 U.S. cities. The first Canadian city to appear on the list (Winnipeg) would be in 22nd place. The coldest U.S. city (Fargo, North Dakota), would rank 58th. Americans are accustomed to thinking of Alaska as the ultimate cold region. But Anchorage, Alaska, would not appear on a list of the coldest Russian and North American cities of over 100,000 until position number 135, outranked by no fewer than 112 Russian cities. The explanation for this result is not that Alaska isn’t cold. It is, It’s just that Americans don’t build large cities there.
it argues that Russia has an unusually high amount of its population in inhospitably cold regions, mainly due to Soviet planning. And this produces a large cost burden on the country, besides added discomfort.
I was amused to find out that January 2009 here was colder than Moscow the same month.
The article says that about 1/10 of the Russian population lives in Siberia. I think Russia is an outlier.
The article says that about 1/10 of the Russian population lives in Siberia. I think Russia is an outlier.
1/10th is about 15 million, so more than almost everywhere else in the world, besides the Canadian Prairies and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harbin#Climate]Harbin. But I still think the article is correct that Russia is an outlier.
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