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Old 12-01-2007, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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To me: California reminds me of a huge Petri dish.........

I used to love Calif; but, I hate to admit to this--------I am more 'Conservative' than many folks west of the Colorado River which may explain why I am doing OK here in Arizona

Yes. We Californians generally have a liberal laid-back style. Many california conservatives have moved to the mountain west (AZ, CO, UT, MT).

Unfortunately, Phoenix can't compete on any level with San Francisco. Cheaper I guess.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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Yes. We Californians generally have a liberal laid-back style. Many california conservatives have moved to the mountain west (AZ, CO, UT, MT).

Unfortunately, Phoenix can't compete on any level with San Francisco. Cheaper I guess.
MUCH cheaper:

$600K will get you a nice home in virtually any high end enclave here in the Phx area------and, prices are continuing to drop.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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prices are continuing to drop.
If only summer temperatures showed the same pattern.
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Old 12-02-2007, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Mesa, Az
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If only summer temperatures showed the same pattern.
I had to laugh at that one; despite our ambient temps being higher in the Phx area; I flat fried in DC during the summer with the ghastly humidity-----and, that was on top of the cold, nasty winters.
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Old 12-04-2007, 02:53 PM
 
Location: Eagan, Minnesota
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Phoenix heat is unbearable. I lived there for 3 years and still dislike the place immensely. The only thing I miss about living in Phoenix are the California based places like Del Taco, In n Out Burger, Baja Fresh LOL California based fast food places are great!!
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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I had to laugh at that one; despite our ambient temps being higher in the Phx area; I flat fried in DC during the summer with the ghastly humidity-----and, that was on top of the cold, nasty winters.
You dont fry in D.C. like you do in AZ. PHX's temps are way higher than D.C.'s. True D.C. is alot more humid, but at least theyre not subjected to several months of 100 degrees and up, and a months worth of 110 degrees and up. I love when people in AZ try and point out other summer temps from around the country, like theirs are sooooo nice. lol AZ has the second worst summers in the USA, right behind the garbage that Miami experiences.
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Old 12-04-2007, 03:16 PM
 
Location: the best coast
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You dont fry in D.C. like you do in AZ. PHX's temps are way higher than D.C.'s. True D.C. is alot more humid, but at least theyre not subjected to several months of 100 degrees and up, and a months worth of 110 degrees and up. I love when people in AZ try and point out other summer temps from around the country, like theirs are sooooo nice. lol AZ has the second worst summers in the USA, right behind the garbage that Miami experiences.
yea except the difference between the east coast and arizona is that it is a desert steve-bo. now i do not know how framiliar you are with the way the climate works so ill give it a shot You can sit in 100-110 degrees during the day when you know by the time the bars open at night the temperature is going to drop to 75-85 degrees. Arizona in the summer is not like chicago in the winter where the weather is consisitant. The temperature is never consistantly hot, save the heat waves. Where as in Miami or DC the humidty sticks around day and night so you get no relief. 90 degrees with 90% humidity to a night time temp of 80 degrees and 85% humidity is what you are more likely to see in an dc summer.
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Old 10-28-2008, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Am from LA, and i love when people from other states glorify CA, but let's be honest. California, yes by far leads the nation in many aspects, but not all!!

One example, like already mentioned is the transportation system. California has a decent transportation system but is not the best! I honestly think there's nothing like chicago and new york's transportation systems.

I think that part of the reason that people glorify CA so much, is because it's unique. We might not always have the best things (and most times, we don't xD), but we are very unique in what we do. Fashion for example, starts here and spreads out, with the exception of NYC!!
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Old 10-28-2008, 05:07 PM
 
Location: Southie
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I have been struggling with this idea for a while but it seems to me that California is ahead of the rest of the nation at least 10 years in every single aspect.
Same sex marriage was legalized in MA long before it was in CA. Overall, I think MA is a more progressive state.

You do have the weather though. I'll give you that.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:27 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Same sex marriage was legalized in MA long before it was in CA. Overall, I think MA is a more progressive state.
No, your civilized urban areas just make up more of the overall population.
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