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Putting Cleveland in the same breath as Gary, Mobile, Little Rock, and implying that the city is unattractive is laughable. These might be your perceptions, but they are far from reality. Cleveland in reality has quite a bit going for it. It is a major city with world class amenities, many things you can't find anywhere else, and many large billion dollar companies. It is nothing like the podunk towns you tried to liken it to. It may be seen as "unhip," but that is quickly changing. The city is on an upswing right now and has lots of momentum. A building boom is taking place throughout the city like nothing I've seen in my time. It's only a matter of time before the masses start catching on (people in the know already have).
When I say of Cleveland its unattractive and unhip I am speaking comparatively, not absolutely. Compared to San Francisco, Seattle, New York, Austin, DC, Boston, and a few other popular cities, it's perceived that way. And not by me, but by the many college grads who would sneer at the idea of living in Cleveland--or any of the other cities I listed.
In absolute terms of course there are wonderful things to see and do in Cleveland. But comparatively speaking it has that rep -- as do the other cities I mentioned. Maybe the masses, as you say, will eventually feel differently and stop referring to the place as The Mistake on the Lake.
From what that says, it looks like Minneapolis & Boston are creeping higher and higher on my list.
I'm from Minneapolis and I want to be back there someday again -- it's an amazing city and unabashedly it's my personal favorite -- but Boston also intrigues me and even though I haven't been there it's a city I can relate to in terms of both mine and my wife's needs: great culture, great parks, great schools/education, great healthcare, low(er) crime, walkable, urban, exciting, and diverse (in every aspect imaginable, not just race).
Both are great choices, and I also like the list you've built upon so far! You're on the right track I think in terms of finding where to place yourself.
Putting Cleveland in the same breath as Gary, Mobile, Little Rock, and implying that the city is unattractive is laughable. These might be your perceptions, but they are far from reality. Cleveland in reality has quite a bit going for it. It is a major city with world class amenities, many things you can't find anywhere else, and many large billion dollar companies. It is nothing like the podunk towns you tried to liken it to. It may be seen as "unhip," but that is quickly changing. The city is on an upswing right now and has lots of momentum. A building boom is taking place throughout the city like nothing I've seen in my lifetime. It's only a matter of time before the masses start catching on (people in the know already have).
Cleveland is actually also a great choice because it has almost everything you're looking for, yet far fewer people are (currently) scrambling to live and work here, so I suppose the competition may be a bit easier, IDK. On the flipside, the job market isn't exactly white-hot here, but it's good enough to land a starting position, and no worse than the average U.S. city.
Cleveland is actually also a great choice because it has almost everything you're looking for, yet far fewer people are (currently) scrambling to live and work here, so I suppose the competition may be a bit easier, IDK. On the flipside, the job market isn't exactly white-hot here, but it's good enough to land a starting position, and no worse than the average U.S. city.
I for one would be living there if my family was in the area. I did the Chicago thing, but honestly am one of the few that would prefer Cleveland over Chicago. It's all of the culture, and authentic type of feel that I like in a Midwestern city, without all of that overly world class international feeling. You guys have a good thing in Cleveland - people are just too near sited to see it.
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