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Old 06-13-2014, 10:25 AM
 
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Easily the western states away from the coast. Idaho is pretty wild as are Oregon and Washington beginning with the cascades and heading east.

East coast really isn't comparable to some places out west.
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Old 01-04-2015, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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East of the Mississippi:

1. Northern Maine
2. Adirondacks
3. Everglades
4. Northern PA
5. Eastern WV
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Old 01-05-2015, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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East of the Mississippi:

1. Northern Maine
2. Adirondacks
3. Everglades
4. Northern PA
5. Eastern WV
Nah, areas of Upper Michigan (Copper Harbor is the town furthest from an interstate in the entire continential US) and far northern Minnesota are more remote than all but #1 and potentially #2. The Upper Midwest northwoods (MN/WI/MI) are very remote.
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Old 01-05-2015, 12:38 PM
 
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Idaho is pretty wild as are Oregon and Washington beginning with the cascades and heading east.
Eastern Oregon (outside of the Bend area) is definitely wild, but most of Washington east of the cascades has hundreds of thousands of people. A lot of it is rural, but definitely populated. Farms and orchards aren't 'wild', IMO. Far northern Washington from the Cascades to the Selkirks is pretty wild though.

Idaho takes the cake though.
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Old 01-05-2015, 02:46 PM
 
Location: Washington County, PA
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Nah, areas of Upper Michigan (Copper Harbor is the town furthest from an interstate in the entire continential US) and far northern Minnesota are more remote than all but #1 and potentially #2. The Upper Midwest northwoods (MN/WI/MI) are very remote.
What facts are you basing this on?

Because I found them remote, but seriously the Everglades? Most of it isn't even develop-able. Its a gigantic swamp.

Cherry Springs, PA is one of the darkest places in the United States and its within 500 miles of Philly, NYC, Pittsburgh, Boston, and DC. The towns in southern Potter County they are in have population densities in the 0.2 ppsm - 0.5 ppsm range.
http://www.usatoday.com/picture-gall...laces/6861841/
Cherry Springs State Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Forest County, PA only has 5,000 residents due to a prison. Its one of the only counties in the entire USA without a traffic light. http://www.pavisnet.com/pafact/

Eastern WV is easily one of the most remote places as well. Many areas aren't on the power grid.



Have you ever been to these places? Most likely not. I've been to them all, and to northern Michigan. N Michigan is quite remote, but not to these levels. There are still towns spread throughout the region. The town of Renovo, PA is 28 miles from the nearest town.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renovo,_Pennsylvania
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...e9fc7158a717e3

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Old 01-05-2015, 06:57 PM
 
Location: New Mexico U.S.A.
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Because I found them remote, but seriously the Everglades? Most of it isn't even develop-able. Its a gigantic swamp.
I worked at a missile site in the Everglades for a few years in the 60's.

My Father-In-Law had a hunting camp in the Florida swamp, not sure if it was technically the Everglades, it required an airboat to get to it.

The Seminoles managed to survive in the Everglades...
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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What facts are you basing this on?

Because I found them remote, but seriously the Everglades? Most of it isn't even develop-able. Its a gigantic swamp.

Cherry Springs, PA is one of the darkest places in the United States and its within 500 miles of Philly, NYC, Pittsburgh, Boston, and DC. The towns in southern Potter County they are in have population densities in the 0.2 ppsm - 0.5 ppsm range.
America's wildest places
Cherry Springs State Park - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Forest County, PA only has 5,000 residents due to a prison. Its one of the only counties in the entire USA without a traffic light. Pennsylvania Facts

Eastern WV is easily one of the most remote places as well. Many areas aren't on the power grid.



Have you ever been to these places? Most likely not. I've been to them all, and to northern Michigan. N Michigan is quite remote, but not to these levels. There are still towns spread throughout the region. The town of Renovo, PA is 28 miles from the nearest town.
Renovo, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Re...e9fc7158a717e3
Northern Michigan is not the Upper Peninsula. Entirely different story. And if you'd have been there, you would know how to refer to it, because you literally can't miss all the Yooper talk/shirts/roadside attractions (Yooper = UP = Upper Peninsula).

Copper Harbor is the town the furthest distance from any U.S. Interstate Highway: Keweenaw Adventure Company - Copper Harbor

You can't go north, you can't go east, and you can't go west, all are blocked by the world's largest lake; all land and civilization is south. The closest town over 8,000 is a 3 hour drive; the closest town over 100,000 is almost 7 hours away (Minneapolis or Milwaukee).

If the UP were its own state, it would have the lowest population density in the entire country outside Alaska - it's less dense than Wyoming or Montana or North Dakota. Beyond the lowest population density in the country, it's a large peninsula surrounded by Lake Superior, Lake Michigan, and vast Wisconsin northwoods to the south.

Forest County is the least dense county in PA? Well, it's still double the population density of the entire UP! Some of those counties barely register.

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By contrast, Renovo, PA is 3 hours from Pittsburgh and 2 1/2 from Harrisburg; 2 hours from Wilkes-Barre, 3 1/2 from Philly or Buffalo. Williamsport is only an hour away, and it's around 30,000 people. The biggest city in the entire country is under 4 hours away! Sorry, but this isn't even close. And I haven't talked about the Huron Mountains or other regions that are an hour or two closer than Copper Harbor to civilization, but are within vast wildernesses where almost no one lives.

That's also without mentioning far northern Minnesota - ever taken the Gunflint Trail? Canoe through Voyageurs?

Sorry, but I don't believe you're familiar with the MN/WI/MI northwoods one bit. PA can't come close to that isolation.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:12 PM
 
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Forest County, PA only has 5,000 residents due to a prison. Its one of the only counties in the entire USA without a traffic light. Pennsylvania Facts
There are actually many many counties without stoplights in the USA.

South Dakota has 36 such counties. Many states have a few, some states have a lot.
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Old 01-06-2015, 12:20 PM
 
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Right, there are very few in the UP, I'll bet most counties don't have stoplights.
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Old 01-07-2015, 12:41 PM
 
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Cherry Springs, PA is one of the darkest places in the United States and its within 500 miles of Philly, NYC, Pittsburgh, Boston, and DC. The towns in southern Potter County they are in have population densities in the 0.2 ppsm - 0.5 ppsm range.
It actually isn't. It's just a quote from a single person, not a quantifiable statistic, and the quote actually claims it's one of the darkest places on the east coast which isn't saying much.

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The towns in southern Potter County they are in have population densities in the 0.2 ppsm - 0.5 ppsm range.
The entire county is incorporated and the county itself has a density of 16 ppl per square mile. Rural yes, but not anything noteworthy.

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The town of Renovo, PA is 28 miles from the nearest town.
It actually borders Noyes, Chapman, Leidy, and the city of South Renovo. On top of this it's part of both a micropolitan are as well as a CSA. Definitely not remote.
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