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It's hard to make anything on this thread work. But let's just correct:
I have lived in both NYC and Miami. And they are NOTHING alike. No more than NYC and Dallas. They are cities, that is all. This misconception is continually thrown about by people who have never lived in both, and thus a lot of people move to Miami expecting NYC with palm trees. And guess what, there are transplants all over the Miami forum who hate Miami and are moving back up North, because it is absolutely nothing like where they are from or what they expected or enjoy.
Miami is far more conservative politically and religiously than NYC, because its culture is predominantly wealthy white Cuban and South American - whereas NYC has only a tiny Cuban population, most not from the wealthy 1959 wave. It is a spread out driving city that is mostly suburban - the opposite of NY. The economy is mostly tourism, with many of the white collar jobs covered by Russian and South American nationals, not locals. Miami is an extremely racially and economically segregated city, whereas NYC is extremely integrated socially. There are virtually no Asians in Miami, whereas NYC has multiple neighborhoods predominantly of individual Asian nationalities. NYC is full of the top universities in the country. Miami has many colleges but only one university that even ranks nationally. In NYC people thrive on stress, and Miami has plenty of angry people with road rage but otherwise is very laid back. All of Miami takes a lunch break between 12-1PM and offices are closed... you can't expect to get business done during that time or have most places even answer the phone. People tend to work 10AM-4:30PM. NYC runs nearly 24/7, with the average work day being around 8:30PM-6PM. NYC is entirely about work and career advancement, whereas Miamians live for the evenings and weekends. NYC is full of authentic Italian restaurants, and in Miami you would struggle to get any Italian food that ranks above Olive Garden. NYC has one of the highest percentages of volunteers and non-profits per capita, whereas Miami has very few non-profit resources for its people, and has ranked as the lowest percentage of volunteers in the country per capita.
I could go on and on. The cultures are completely different, the values are completely different, the economies are completely different, and the climates are completely different. There is almost nothing that NYC and Miami have in common at all.
That said, both have wonderful aspects if you like what they have to offer. But please, let's stop spreading the misinformation that NYC and Miami have anything in common besides being cities, they really don't.
I agree-but do any of these cities really have all that in common?
Atlanta/NYC are even more different IMO but that's what makes it a fun exercise.
I honestly don't know anyone who feels that way. Richmond, on the other hand, is a different story.
Well I used to live Upstate in Elmira, then Albany. And I've come across countless people from NY, Rochester, Buffalo; have spent ample time in Binghamton and Syracuse, and in my travels New Yorkers call Baltimore and DC "country", and don't consider them Northeast...This is obviously not a convo that comes up every day--but when it did, these were the sentiments...
But those aren't the actual boundaries of the northeast and southeast. No matter how you cut it, neither Louisville or Norfolk are northeastern in any sense whatsoever.
First of all Baltimore isn't always considered northeast, but if paired with anything I'd pair Baltimore with Norfolk for the port aspect both actually have an "Inner Harbor".
I'll also pair Philadelphia and Memphis for the ghettoness and crime.
Washington DC can go with Raleigh/Durham
Both Baltimore and Norfolk are Northeastern Cities. So Baltimore=Tampa, Norfolk=Jacksonville.
Memphis would go best with St. Louis since both cities share a Mississippi River and both have industrial histories. I don't know for Philadelphia, maybe West Palm Beach since I put New York with Miami?
Washington/Baltimore would go the best with Orlando/Tampa since both regions are twin cities (Western Maryland/Northern Virginia/Eastern West Virginia/District of Columbia for Washington/Baltimore, Central Florida for Orlando/Tampa).
I thought about that but between the coastal locations, large Jewish populations and overall more ethnic feel NYC and Miami share more in common IMO. New Yorkers often are back and forth between NYC and Miami, especially retirees, so there already is a large contingent of New Yorkers in Miami and a historical relationship between the two cities.
Atlanta and DC have similar non-ethnic/waspy white populations with significant African American history and culture. They also have some of the wealthiest AA populations in the country. AA in Miami have the worst poverty rate of nearly any major city. Atlanta, being the Capital of Georgia, also has a notable Government presence like in DC.
Atlanta actually has a pretty significant Jewish population. Atlanta is also more of a corporate city and big on entertainment and nightlife. It also is has a notable financial presence as well. What Atlanta lacks are real enclaves. Demographics wise Miami may seem more like NYC. However in terms of versatility Atlanta definitely has more in common. Atlanta has many Fortune 500 companies as well. Remember just last year Atlanta based ICE bought out NYSE. This would never happen in Miami. Atlanta far and away a more relevant city economics wise.
As far as black wealth, many blacks in Atlanta make their money in the private sector in Atlanta. You will find black VPs of large companies and many in senior management. You'll also find a lot of blacks with good paying professional class jobs in the private sector.
Atlanta is a very business culture. So you will see a lot of representation of different ethnicities in Atlanta corporate atmopshere. Atlanta is also more of a hustler city like NY.
Both Baltimore and Norfolk are Northeastern Cities. So Baltimore=Tampa, Norfolk=Jacksonville.
Memphis would go best with St. Louis since both cities share a Mississippi River and both have industrial histories. I don't know for Philadelphia, maybe West Palm Beach since I put New York with Miami?
Washington/Baltimore would go the best with Orlando/Tampa since both regions are twin cities (Western Maryland/Northern Virginia/Eastern West Virginia/District of Columbia for Washington/Baltimore, Central Florida for Orlando/Tampa).
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