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Most of Baton Rouge and Charleston WV aren't very dense, but both have small but walkable downtowns (BR probably less so after dark because of crime).
Charleston is actually a very dense city, probably peak "livable" density right up there with much larger but somewhat nearby hilly cities like Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Most of Charleston's land area is in the Appalachian mountains, but the areas in the Kanawah Valley are narrow and dense for miles.
It's by far, one of my favorite cities to drive through (only in the summer, or don't let there be an accident on 77 and traffic gets tied up for hours).
Charleston is actually a very dense city, probably peak "livable" density right up there with much larger but somewhat nearby hilly cities like Cincinnati and Pittsburgh. Most of Charleston's land area is in the Appalachian mountains, but the areas in the Kanawah Valley are narrow and dense for miles.
It's by far, one of my favorite cities to drive through (only in the summer, or don't let there be an accident on 77 and traffic gets tied up for hours).
The issue is densities for cities can be very misleading, especially for cities with a larger land area.
For example, I recently saw a post saying that 75% of Oklahoma City's population resides in 25% of the total land area.
About 35% of Denver's land area is its massive airport.
Portland has an 8 sq. mi. wooded park in its city limits as well as several other developed and undeveloped green spaces, lowering the overall density.
If a city feels denser than its population density number suggests, then chances are it probably is.
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What’s not walkable about Miami?….definitely has its self sufficient walkable neighborhoods.
I live in Brickell, 99% of my daily needs are all within a 1-12 minute walk, only put 4K miles/year on the car and walk 5 miles/day…..portions of Miami Beach (SoFi, Sunset Harbour, North Beach, Surfside, mid beach) walkable as are Coconut Grove, Midtown, Little Havana and Miracle Mile/Coral Gables…..there’s a HUGE difference between coastal and inland Miami—I have no desire to walk to or around Doral, Hialeah or Pembroke Pines.
It is the 4th most dense city. Is it less walkable than NYC, SF, CHI, Boston, Philly?….yes…..is it not walkable?—no.
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Miami, to me, is by far the least walkable dense city in America.
The most walkable not-so-dense city is Portland, Oregon.
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Least Walkable Dense Cities:
Miami
Los Angeles
The Bronx
Lawrence MA
Most Walkable Not So Dense Cities:
New Haven CT
Portland OR
Savannah GA
New Brunswick NJ
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What’s not walkable about Miami?….definitely has its self sufficient walkable neighborhoods.
I live in Brickell, 99% of my daily needs are all within a 1-12 minute walk, only put 4K miles/year on the car and walk 5 miles/day…..portions of Miami Beach (SoFi, Sunset Harbour, North Beach, Surfside, mid beach) walkable as are Coconut Grove, Midtown, Little Havana and Miracle Mile/Coral Gables…..there’s a HUGE difference between coastal and inland Miami—I have no desire to walk to or around Doral, Hialeah or Pembroke Pines.
It is the 4th most dense city. Is it less walkable than NYC, SF, CHI, Boston, Philly?….yes…..is it not walkable?—no.
I totally agree that there are some very walkable areas in Miami. I guess for me it's just that given how dense it is (like you said, 4th) it's just not as pedestrian-oriented overall as you'd expect. Less dense cities like Boston, Seattle, Milwaukee, Portland, Oakland/Berkeley, etc. feel more pedestrian-oriented to me.
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