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How can Cleveland not be in the Northeast? From Cleveland, you can be in New York State in an hour and 47 minutes. From Baltimore, it takes nearly 3 hours to get to Staten Island.
Ya!
Also, Columbus, OH and Philadelphia, PA are almost exactly the same latitude so Ohio should be a northeastern state too.
Ohio also borders 2 northeastern states (PA and WV).
West Virginia is a southern state. This is extremely damaging to Ohio's claim as a Midwestern/Northeastern state. A non-southern state cannot border a southern state...especially a Northeastern state. It's a rule.
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Originally Posted by muppethammer26
The border between Colorado and Oklahoma is very small.
Yes, but this dilutes Colorado's regional purity, and gives it a taint of southerness true Mountain West states lack. That's why it makes sense to put Oklahoma in the Mountain West so that Colorado no longer borders a southern state.
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Originally Posted by muppethammer26
Arkansas doesn't belong in the Midwest and Louisiana doesn't belong in the Southwest.
Arkansas belongs in the Midwest because of its connection to those states through the Great Migration. Louisiana has a strong connection to the Pacific West for the same reason. Louisiana is more of a Southwest/Pacific West combo.
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Originally Posted by muppethammer26
The Midwest has OH, IN, IL, KY, MI, WI, MO, IA, MN, ND, SD, NE and KS. The Southwest has OK, TX, NM, AZ, CO and UT.
The Midwest also has Arkansas, Oklahoma and Tennessee. The Southwest also has Louisiana.
Why are you people trying to expand the definition of Northeast? Peoria is the same latitude as New York and Pittsburgh. Therefore Illinois should be northeastern. yeah
Northeastern depends on if you're talking about the union north, the pre-union north or the overall continental northeast. So you see, it can have at least 3 different definitions, but I think you all know what the op is asking.
The Northeast, known as the East on that map, includes Ohio and Virginia. The Midwest and The South got reduced in size and a new Central region was created from some of the Midwestern and Western states.
How about we put a poll about the northeastern states on this page. The options would be Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Michigan. People would be allowed to choose multiple states.
How about we put a poll about the northeastern states on this page. The options would be Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana and Michigan. People would be allowed to choose multiple states.
How about LET'S NOT. You have created a dozen or so threads on variations of the same subject and no one agrees. Even IF everyone agreed with you it is proof of nothing. Opinions are not facts.
"In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition is true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is: "If many believe so, it is so."
How about LET'S NOT. You have created a dozen or so threads on variations of the same subject and no one agrees. Even IF everyone agreed with you it is proof of nothing. Opinions are not facts.
"In argumentation theory, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition is true because many or most people believe it. In other words, the basic idea of the argument is: "If many believe so, it is so."
So how about let's knock it off.
I wanted to respond to his post, but I resisted because I didn't want to give him the attention that he so badly wants.
But everything you said here is exactly 100%.
Let it go
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