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Old 12-25-2007, 06:32 AM
 
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Are there still any parts of the USA where some anglo-saxons still hate or distrust people of irish, polish, portugeuse, italian, or Greek descent? or are these ethnicities considered truly "white" everywhere nowadays? i knowthat in Australia, some anglo-saxons consider greeks "black" (!!!!), but then again, Australia doesnt have much of a melting-pot history, nor do they have many actual afro-caribbean people

secondly, were french cajuns in lousiana persecuted at all during 2003 when france angered mainstream america by refusing to support the iraq war?
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Old 12-25-2007, 06:57 AM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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i think there is still anti-semitism out there in america. i also think poor whites are made fun of in many places.
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Old 12-25-2007, 07:03 AM
 
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Ethnocentrism, not racism, would be the accurate term to use.
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:34 AM
 
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People with southern accents seem to take more than their share of crap.
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Old 12-25-2007, 11:44 AM
 
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It is well-known that there are disagreements between light-skinned blacks and their darker bretheren. But, in Chicago, the north side Irish don't get along with the south side Irish!

And, of course, the Irish and the Italians still seem to have major differnces.
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Old 12-25-2007, 03:43 PM
 
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Because both ethnic groups are Catholic they have intermarried a lot.

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And, of course, the Irish and the Italians still seem to have major differnces.
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Old 12-25-2007, 10:03 PM
 
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Because both ethnic groups are Catholic they have intermarried a lot.
One of my high school instructors said that when his parents spoke Gaelic at home, he knew there was some scandal, like someone marrying an Italian. My hometown had almost a dozen Catholic grade schools but there was a Polish one, an Italian one, a Slovakian one and two Irish ones. The rest were mixed. So, even if they were all Catholic, there were still differences.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:48 PM
 
Location: In exile, plotting my coup
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I don't think there is really any active "white on white" racism left. I don't think there's anyone who is getting turned down for a loan because they have an Italian name, or anyone who is passed over for a promotion because they're Polish. With that said though, I think a lot of people especially in the Northeast and parts of the upper Midwest are very fixated on ethnicity. It seems like the question "what are you?" comes out of people's mouths more often than elsewhere and people include ethnicity when referencing someone fairly frequently (i.e. "I know this guy who works down at the furniture store who can get you a good deal; name's Stan, Russian guy...."). I don't think any harm is meant by it, but people do tend to wear their ethnicity on their sleeves more in places like New York, Boston, Philadelphia and Chicago.
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Old 12-26-2007, 01:50 PM
 
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secondly, were french cajuns in lousiana persecuted at all during 2003 when france angered mainstream america by refusing to support the iraq war?

Why on earth would something like that happen?
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Old 12-26-2007, 02:41 PM
 
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Default It still happens.

Dullnboring, you may be right about areas of the country where ethnicity is still a big deal. I can remember when some tradesmen in my house belittled some other immigrants as "DP"s. I thought it meant displaced persons but they were calling them dumb Polish folks. It surprised me.

Yes, it is still involved in employment decisions, believe me. I think there is active bias by some white ethnic groups against other ones, whether or not they intermarry. Remember all those "Polish jokes"? That was only 20 years ago.
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