Americans: Do You Consider Pennsylvania a Northern State? (food, cities)

[rorytmeadows]

Originally Posted by Katiana

Are you serious? Baltimore had segregated lunch counters, in my lifetime if not yours. I grew up in southwestern PA; our lunch counters weren't segregated, even in 1955.
Baltimore, MD, students sit-in to integrate Read's drug stores, USA, 1955 | Global Nonviolent Action Database

Seeing as though there is racism everywhere, I don't really associate the South with racism, like the media would like you to believe.

[757Cities Southsider]

Originally Posted by 11KAP

Yes, it is the northern, a QUAKER state. Pennsylvania never had confusion about this, to my knowledge.

fyp.

[rnc2mbfl]

Is this seriously in question? Wow....it sure has ruffled a lot of feathers given its 6 pages of replies in less than 24 hours!

[Katarina Witt]

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows

Seeing as though there is racism everywhere, I don't really associate the South with racism, like the media would like you to believe.

You make a good point, but institutionalized, e.g. legal, racism is something entirely different from personal racism.

[rorytmeadows]

Originally Posted by Katiana

You make a good point, but institutionalized, e.g. legal, racism is something entirely different from personal racism.

I still don't see racism as a determining factor for Southern influence. You seem to have forgotten that the North was just as racist as the South at the start of the Civil War. The architecture, food, arts, culture, just isn't there. This entire thread is a joke.

[cheese plate]

Originally Posted by rorytmeadows

the North was just as racist as the South at the start of the Civil War...This entire thread is a joke.

I think it's pretty clear what the joke is here!

[rorytmeadows]

Originally Posted by cheese plate

I think it's pretty clear what the joke is here!

Hmm, yet another topic you need to read up on. Let's hope you have a lot of free time coming up!

[PA2UK]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

The National Park Service doesn't even include Pennsylvania in its definition of the "Northeast."

http://www.nps.gov/nr/twhp/wwwlps/le.../100map1bl.gif

There's no iron clad evidence that Pennsylvania is a northeastern state. The sources vary on the question.

I notice you didn't post a map that does show PA, probably because it's a Mid-Atlantic map, which is still not southern.

I'm from Pennsylvania. I do not have a southern accent, nor does any Pennsylvanian I've ever known. We are not southern, therefore it's not a southern state.

[11KAP]

Originally Posted by 757Cities Southsider

fyp.

That's a better way or nickname to describe Pennsylvania the state, but they're still part of the yankee north.
No one from Pa, that I know of, goes around calling themselves quakers in this day and age.

[Craziaskowboi]

Originally Posted by cheese plate

Baltimore is more southern than South Carolina, easily. Too many transplants down there watering down the culture. Pennsylvania is a transition zone that leans more southern.

Exactly how does Pennsylvania "lean more Southern"? I need specific details.

While you're at it, can you tell me why I experienced such a culture shock when I moved from Pennsylvania to Georgia that took me at least three years to get out of my system?