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Old 09-24-2014, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Louisville
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I didn't read NOLA's post as exhibiting the type of mentality you claim. Instead, I think s/he was just detecting some hyperbole:
NOLA is hard core no matter what, fighting hyperbole with hyperbole. Tis how NOLA rolls.
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Old 09-24-2014, 10:19 PM
 
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I didn't read NOLA's post as exhibiting the type of mentality you claim. Instead, I think s/he was just detecting some hyperbole:
I don't think it's hyperbole. Find something like this anywhere else. I dare you.



Or this.



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or this.



Good luck. And if you somehow find strikingly similar architecture with a similar history, I'll go digging for some more prime examples. It took me a grand total of 10 minutes to find all this, there's definitely more.
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Old 09-25-2014, 07:10 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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I'll agree with everyone who isn't NOLA - Detroit has amazing and often unique architecture. Some people who grew up in the Midwest and "moved on" will not admit that there are some great urban centers, nature, or any sorts of features. That's NOLA to a "T."
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Regarding Detroit (a city I've lived in before) I agree it has some amazing architecture remaining in and around Downtown and Midtown. The main issue with calling it an "attractive" urban core, however, is the old urban neighborhoods which surrounded Downtown were largely obliterated through a combination of urban renewal, spread of industrial zones, and more recent neglect/blight. IMHO Corktown is the only really urban feeling residential neighborhood remaining. There are some nice looking streetcar suburbs within city limits still, but even if you consider them urban, they certainly aren't urban core.
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:14 AM
 
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I'll agree with everyone who isn't NOLA - Detroit has amazing and often unique architecture. Some people who grew up in the Midwest and "moved on" will not admit that there are some great urban centers, nature, or any sorts of features. That's NOLA to a "T."
I don't know of any "amazing and unique" architecture in Detroit, and given that everyone who has claimed this is a local homer, I think it's fair to say it isn't true. Venice or Florence has "amazing and unique" architecture.

Detroit, MI was the Houston of its day, and 99% of the structures were built to accommodate the boom.
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Old 09-25-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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I'll agree with everyone who isn't NOLA - Detroit has amazing and often unique architecture. Some people who grew up in the Midwest and "moved on" will not admit that there are some great urban centers, nature, or any sorts of features. That's NOLA to a "T."
Agreed.

OuttaTheLouBurbs: you beat me to those pictures.

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Regarding Detroit (a city I've lived in before) I agree it has some amazing architecture remaining in and around Downtown and Midtown. The main issue with calling it an "attractive" urban core, however, is the old urban neighborhoods which surrounded Downtown were largely obliterated through a combination of urban renewal, spread of industrial zones, and more recent neglect/blight. IMHO Corktown is the only really urban feeling residential neighborhood remaining. There are some nice looking streetcar suburbs within city limits still, but even if you consider them urban, they certainly aren't urban core.
If you aren't considering Midtown a residential neighborhood then I agree. Southwest Detroit comes pretty close to downtown also but I guess it's not really close enough to be considered the core.
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Old 09-25-2014, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Paris
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Detroit certainly does have some cool (namely) art deco architecture, but OuttaTheLouBurbs I assume you've driven around St. Louis yes? It doesn't fit the thread requirement, but still...
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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I don't know of any "amazing and unique" architecture in Detroit, and given that everyone who has claimed this is a local homer, I think it's fair to say it isn't true. Venice or Florence has "amazing and unique" architecture.

Detroit, MI was the Houston of its day, and 99% of the structures were built to accommodate the boom.
But Venice looks just like any other old European city. What's so unique about it?

http://goo.gl/maps/902Hi

http://goo.gl/maps/4QFT7
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Old 09-25-2014, 10:52 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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I don't know of any "amazing and unique" architecture in Detroit, and given that everyone who has claimed this is a local homer, I think it's fair to say it isn't true. Venice or Florence has "amazing and unique" architecture.

Detroit, MI was the Houston of its day, and 99% of the structures were built to accommodate the boom.
So under this standard, then the premise of this thread is invalid. There are no cores in this country that are architecturally attractive. They are not Venice. Thank god Detroit was the Houston of its day, because they sh** they built back then was WAY more interesting than the glass boxes and hideous brutalist structures they have built since.

The collection of gothic skyscrapers in Detroit are unique, and beautiful. Back then they built buildings to showcase wealth and grandeur, not a detail was spared. Nowhere was that more evident than the opulent buildings built in Detroit. Nowadays it's all about height. No offense to my OKC brethren, but when I drive through the city and see the hulking Devon tower standing next to the rest of the skyline, it feels as if Oklahoma is overcompensating for various appendages of inadequate size. But that's the mindset and the attention to detail is gone. But what is attractive is opinion based and not quantifiable. NOLA is certainly entitled to his opinion, apparently we are also entitled to NOLAs opinion.
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Old 09-25-2014, 11:44 AM
 
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I think some smaller Midwest cities that have fallen on hard times would fit best. places like Rockford Illins come to mind. That town has tons of potential if it could ever turn it's economy around..very good urban bones much of it built by Swedes. Not sure if I'd call it blighted though, but certainly in need of investment and infill.

The well preserved city hall is quite nice for a city of its size

https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8457/7...a49e21f6_z.jpg

And even has a mini art deco tower alongq the Rock River

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5172/...ba60b69460.jpg

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