Missouri or Maryland...which is more southern?? (area, accent)

[BajanYankee]

My father says that Baltimoreans had a thick southern accent in the 60s and early 70s. Then he said it faded out.

Indeed, during the 1950s much of old “Southern Baltimore,” which included large parts of Bolton Hill and Roland Park, held on to its culture of choice. “When I moved to Bolton Hill from Cincinnati in 1951, there was a thick Southern accent here,” says Shivers, the 80-year-old local historian, who still lives there. “It had its own culture and you had to get used to it.

http://www.baltimorestyle.com/index.....8OJGZ7qw.dpuf

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by hobbesdj

We really have no idea of knowing where this guy is from. We only know he works at the DC wharf.

I have an exact idea where he's from because he was my favorite person at the Wharf. All of the other people at the Wharf sound a lot like him.

[hobbesdj]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

I have an exact idea where he's from because he was my favorite person at the Wharf.

Right.

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

My father says that Baltimoreans had a thick southern accent in the 60s and early 70s. Then he said it faded out.

http://www.baltimorestyle.com/index.....8OJGZ7qw.dpuf

No surprise, the same area that was heavily populated by southern industrial workers and their families.

"It had it's own culture and you had to get used to it".

Anyways, we've had this discussion countless times. I'll leave it at that.

[deepsouthernfishin]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Here is a basic example of the Missouri bootheel accent. None of their accents are particularly thick either...at least to my ears. Is there a southern accent similar to this anywhere in Maryland????

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=afHZaDD5iuc

Nope. Those are true southerners. In Maryland you don't get that. You don't get into the zone of southern culture until you reach around Richmond Virginia.

[deepsouthernfishin]

Originally Posted by BajanYankee

I have an exact idea where he's from because he was my favorite person at the Wharf. All of the other people at the Wharf sound a lot like him.

Youre tellin' me that of all the fisherman up there, you randomly got to know this particular guy who also happens to be featured in the first Youtube documentary that pops up when you type in "DC Wharf"? All this from a guy in New York City?

Some stories have the air of truth, others just don't. He's hardly southern, just country.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by hobbesdj

No surprise, the same area that was heavily populated by southern industrial workers and their families.

Nope. As the resident historian in the Maryland forum pointed out, Baltimore's southern culture was indigenous.

Originally Posted by westsideboy

I don't think many of the Appalachian transplants would be living in Roland Park, so I am guessing that is old money.

Baltimore really got a double dose of Southernism

1. The initial settlement and culture of the city as an upper South port town
2. The wave of Appalachian-Americans who moved in around WWII.

That's how Baltimore wound up with something like Preakness, which harkens back to its history as an old Upper South port city.

[BajanYankee]

Originally Posted by deepsouthernfishin

Youre tellin' me that of all the fisherman up there, you randomly got to know this particular guy who also happens to be featured in the first Youtube documentary that pops up when you type in "DC Wharf"? All this from a guy in New York City?

I'm not originally from NYC. I lived in DC for years before moving here, and yes, I've had multiple conversations with that man because that's just the way he is. You can have very long conversations with the workers there because it takes upwards to 30 minutes to have your crabs steamed and there's nothing to do but talk to them.

Originally Posted by deepsouthernfishin

Some stories have the air of truth, others just don't. He's hardly southern, just country.

He's southern. Not so sure what's so hard to accept about this.

[BajanYankee]

From the book Maryland Politics and Political Communication, 1950-2005.

Still farther along the Bay's Western shore, forty or so miles beyond Baltimore, are Calvert and St. Mary's County. Tucked behind them, northeast of the Potomac River, is Charles County. These three counties--as well as the southernmost part of Anne Arundel--are Southern Maryland. Whereas the Eastern Shore has a southern feel because of its politics, Southern Maryland has a southern feel because of the historical dominance of tobacco and the large number of rural blacks who resided there.

Baltimore City itself is, of course, at the center of metropolitan Baltimore. Although one might connect it quickly to the other major cities located to its northeast (Philadelphia, New York City), Baltimore has always had much more of a southern "feel" to it.

https://books.google.com/books?id=Be...20feel&f=false

[Deluusions]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Here is a basic example of the Missouri bootheel accent. None of their accents are particularly thick either...at least to my ears. Is there a southern accent similar to this anywhere in Maryland????

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=afHZaDD5iuc

That is a thick southern accent to me. It's not mild at all, a mild southern accent to me is tidewater which is the Virginia beach area.

[JerseyGirl415]

Originally Posted by imbored198824

Here is a basic example of the Missouri bootheel accent. None of their accents are particularly thick either...at least to my ears. Is there a southern accent similar to this anywhere in Maryland????

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=afHZaDD5iuc

That accent sounds thick to me.

Funny how accents sound different in strength depending on where the listeners are from.