The South Will Rise Again (real estate market, homes, employment)

[Flem125]

Originally Posted by ca_north

The South is still known for having some of the dimmest minds in America. I'm not bashing everyone down there, just tired of twangy, religious right-wingers who ignore evidence for AGW, etc. The whole nation needs to catch up to modern times if we are to survive.

"Ain't no global warmin' cuz I needed a blanket this mornin' in 'bamy!" (put a lid on it, fool)

The biggest problem is bigots like you (I'm not bashing everyone out there) who think anyone who doesn't believe what you believe has a dim mind.
"I'm smart because I live in California and everyone is inferior to me!" Put a lid on it, fool

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by nep321

I can't even imagine what summer in the South will be like in 30 years from now, with global warming.

You mean "climate change." Gotta get those politically correct words down straight.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by cpg35223

No. We don't even think about it.

The sole exception is when someone moves here from Connecticut or some such place and begins to immediately ***** about the way we do things down here even before the moving van is unpacked. Yet they're coming here for opportunity that wasn't present in whatever place they left. Go figure.

At the same time, as soon as many people move from the north to the south, they are instantly and repeatedly (and we are told jokingly) referred to as a "Yankee." Some could see that as kinda saying "you're not really welcome here" and can cause folks to start comparing the North to the South.

[KathrynAragon]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Well, the way I see it, that is war. The South started that war, the Union finished it. If the South had not attacked Fort Sumter, this would have not happened.

Confederate troops didn't just wake up one day and say, "Hey, I've got an idea about something exciting to do today - let's go attack some sweet and precious guys stationed at Fort Sumter!"

[EscAlaMike]

Originally Posted by green_mariner

Well, the way I see it, that is war. The South started that war, the Union finished it. If the South had not attacked Fort Sumter, this would have not happened.

That WAS NOT war until Lincoln's War. Up until the 1860s, war in the Western world had always had civil guidelines. You don't destroy private property, if at all avoidable, you don't kill women and children, etc. Lincoln and Sherman and their "Total War" philosophy changed all of that forever. Hence modern warfare which is utterly depraved and inhumane.

Lincoln could have allowed the Southern states to secede peacefully. He did not have to invade. His shipping of munitions and supplies into Fort Sumter (located in sovereign and independent South Carolina) was a clear act of war, and the shots that were fired by Confederate troops were a justified response to Lincoln's initial act of war.

[ThePage]

The Demographics changed tremendously in the North over the past 150 Years due to immigration and many other factors.
Let's hope you also understand the extent of international relations today at this age of high technology. So you all should chill out there down south because No-one is ready to go back to the old stuffs.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by danielj72

I get tired of "the south started the war". Lincoln did not accept southern independence and was raising an army to invade the south. This was months before Sumpter. War was inevitable, and the fact that the first shots were fired by the CSA at a USA fort does not absolve the USA for starting the war. They were preparing their invasion, they were resupplying a fort in sovereign South Carolina territory in defiance of the South Carolina government. You could just as easily say the north started the war.

And the South wanted to secede because it had a strong desire to keep and maintain slavery. Now, I understand Lincoln was not friend of the Black man. However, he desired to keep the USA together. You cannot expect someone to just accept your plea for independence. Resistance is inevitable. And the South lost, so it's time to move on.

Based on a major reason the South seceded, I am quite thankful, as a Black man, that the South lost.

The North didn't start the war. The North just didn't recognize the South as a nation. It did not attack a U.S. fort, the CSA did that.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by KathrynAragon

Confederate troops didn't just wake up one day and say, "Hey, I've got an idea about something exciting to do today - let's go attack some sweet and precious guys stationed at Fort Sumter!"

The Union was no sweetheart, but the CSA did attack Ft. Sumter. They were determined to have what they wanted.

[green_mariner]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

That WAS NOT war until Lincoln's War. Up until the 1860s, war in the Western world had always had civil guidelines. You don't destroy private property, if at all avoidable, you don't kill women and children, etc. Lincoln and Sherman and their "Total War" philosophy changed all of that forever. Hence modern warfare which is utterly depraved and inhumane.

Lincoln could have allowed the Southern states to secede peacefully. He did not have to invade. His shipping of munitions and supplies into Fort Sumter (located in sovereign and independent South Carolina) was a clear act of war, and the shots that were fired by Confederate troops were a justified response to Lincoln's initial act of war.

He didn't allow a peaceful secession, and I, as the descendant of slaves, am glad he didn't. A major part of this war was the desire to keep slavery. The only reason Lincoln freed the slaves was a tactical move.

I can't feel any sympathy for the South.

[snj90]

Originally Posted by FSUMike

That WAS NOT war until Lincoln's War. Up until the 1860s, war in the Western world had always had civil guidelines. You don't destroy private property, if at all avoidable, you don't kill women and children, etc. Lincoln and Sherman and their "Total War" philosophy changed all of that forever. Hence modern warfare which is utterly depraved and inhumane.

Lincoln could have allowed the Southern states to secede peacefully. He did not have to invade. His shipping of munitions and supplies into Fort Sumter (located in sovereign and independent South Carolina) was a clear act of war, and the shots that were fired by Confederate troops were a justified response to Lincoln's initial act of war.

The crimes committed by the North against the South during the war are certainly well-documented and undeniable. But some Americans have a fascination with themselves as saviors of some kind, or as being on the right side of history. We see this also with the mass killing of German civilians during WWII. As long as the other side was "evil," such acts get a total pass even if civilians were the target.