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[i][b]This is ridiculous. NYC in and of itself is in NYS. NYS has suburbs that belong to its own State.
Wrong. The strong majority of NYC metro area suburbs are not in NY State. It isn't even close.
And the NY suburbs that are in NY State are a small proportion of the overall state population, while the NY State suburbs that are in Connecticut and NJ are 90% of their respective state populations.
So, knowing that suburbs drive median income, it's logical that states which are 90% suburbs would have higher median incomes than states which are only 20% suburbs. And this is even though NY State suburbs tend to, on average, be more expensive than NJ suburbs. But since NJ is 90% suburban NY, and NY is only 20% suburban NY, obviously NJ will have higher medians.
NY State could have the richest suburbs on the planet, it will never have a higher median income than NJ and CT. It would be impossible, unless Upstate and NYC were removed from NY State.
Wrong. The strong majority of NYC metro area suburbs are not in NY State. It isn't even close.
And the NY suburbs that are in NY State are a small proportion of the overall state population, while the NY State suburbs that are in Connecticut and NJ are 90% of their respective state populations.
So, knowing that suburbs drive median income, it's logical that states which are 90% suburbs would have higher median incomes than states which are only 20% suburbs. And this is even though NY State suburbs tend to, on average, be more expensive than NJ suburbs. But since NJ is 90% suburban NY, and NY is only 20% suburban NY, obviously NJ will have higher medians.
NY State could have the richest suburbs on the planet, it will never have a higher median income than NJ and CT. It would be impossible, unless Upstate and NYC were removed from NY State.
Strong? Strong what? The richest suburb of New York is Westchester County. These include White Plains, Yonkers, Scarsdale and others. I am not speaking to their wealth or median income - that's not what I'm arguing. I am responding to your "there are no NYS suburbs! This is wrong, there are some. Not once did I say NJ and CT areas does not include any of this. No where.
And, again, NYC's suburbs are primarily not in NY State opined by NOLA101
NYC suburbs are primarily not in NYS, when we have Westchester County that is a suburb of NYS and is in NYS (Scarsdale, Harrison, White Plains, Croton on Hudson, Long Island, (Hamptons) all in NYS? But then again, NYS doesn't have any suburbs of its own?
And, again, NYC's suburbs are primarily not in NY State opined by NOLA101
NYC suburbs are primarily not in NYS, when we have Westchester County that is a suburb of NYS and is in NYS (Scarsdale, Harrison, White Plains, Croton on Hudson, Long Island, (Hamptons) all in NYS? But then again, NYS doesn't have any suburbs of its own?
I believe what he/she is trying to say is that a lot of wealth in the metro isn't included within NYS due to having a good portion of the metro lying outside of the state.
Most "New Yorkers" living in the suburbs (meaning residents of the NYC metro) don't live in NY State; they live in NJ and CT. So the list makes sense to me, as CT and NJ are ranked near the top. NY State wouldn't be similarly ranked, obviously, because it's an enormous state that gets tons of immigrants. Those types of states will never be at the top in terms of median household income.
And, again, NYC's suburbs are primarily not in NY State. And we all know suburbs, moreso than urban areas or rural areas, drive median household income.
Actually, it's just that 50% of NYS is rust belt. Downstate NY would make that list if it were its own state.
Strong? Strong what? The richest suburb of New York is Westchester County. These include White Plains, Yonkers, Scarsdale and others. I am not speaking to their wealth or median income - that's not what I'm arguing. I am responding to your "there are no NYS suburbs! This is wrong, there are some. Not once did I say NJ and CT areas does not include any of this. No where.
The richest county in the NY metro is not Westchester, it's either Morris, Hunterdon, or Somerset in NJ, maybe Fairfield CT. Those 3 in NJ routinely make the NATION's top 10-15 wealthiest. Westchester's not up there with them. http://wtop.com/news/2014/04/america...es-in-dc-area/ By default this means the wealthiest county in the NYC area is Hunterdon, though on municipality levels Westchester towns may come very high.
Of course there are NYS suburbs. I think people tend to forget about Long Island and parts of what we around here consider "Upstate" (because what those from further upstate consider Upstate does not match our definition ).
Last edited by JerseyGirl415; 03-15-2015 at 08:29 PM..
I believe what he/she is trying to say is that a lot of wealth in the metro isn't included within NYS due to having a good portion of the metro lying outside of the state.
I'm not speaking about the nature of the thread (median income/wealth). She said "most of NYC's suburbs are not IN the State of New York. Period. How could she overlook the State's own suburbs. To someone who doesn't know New York City or State would not know these other counties exist because she said we don't have any. Her wording could have been better. I don't argue what the jist of thread is about. I speak to the false notion (she offered) that in NYC, the only suburbs to be encountered will not be part of NYS. Wrong.
scan this list to see the per capita income for all counties in NYS.
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NYC in and of itself is in NYS. NYS has suburbs that belong to its own State. 
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