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North Carolina is the South, no doubt about it. However, I do agree that New York is more Northeastern, along with the majority of Pennsylvania and Northern New Jersey.
I don't think the two are mutually exclusive. South is vague, I technically live in the south, but more officially live in the west.
What exactly is "Mid-Atlantic"? That term itself has no agreed upon meaning. To some it's basically MD/DC/NOVA - a transition zone between the Northeast and South. To the Census Bureau, it's NY/NJ/PA. And then there are others who say Mid-Atlantic includes everything from New York to DC or even Virginia.
Mid Atlantic in the strictest sense going by a modern definition most would agree on is the areas around DC and Baltimore. So South Central PA, Northern Virginia, Eastern panhandle of West Virginia and most of Delaware would make up the areas surrounding the core ie DC and Baltimore and would be considered Mid Atlantic. Other areas like southern New Jersey are sometimes included but in reality NJ is more split between Philly and NYC so a lot of times it's also not included and New York is not included and neither is North Carolina.
It's not New England
It's not really Mid-Atlantic
It's not the Midwest
It's not Appalachia
Yet, it kinda sorta resembles all of those regions
New York is solidly North East. New York has far more in common with New England overall then it does with Pennsylvania and I'm saying this as someone from Pennsylvania who has lived in New York.
As far as states go that are oddballs in regards to not truly fitting in a region Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Hawaii, Alaska and when Puerto Rico becomes a state it would be an oddball not fitting into any particular region as well.
Pennsylvania is a weirdo. Northeast on one side, Midwest on the other, and Alabama in between. Texas is another one.
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Originally Posted by GRS86
Mid Atlantic is basically a term used by folks who don't want to identify with the South. Technically, it's not even a region.
What? I live on the Jersey side of the Delaware (originally from north jersey) and we strongly identify as Mid-Atlantic. Anything between the NYC area and DC areas is the Mid-Atlantic. It has nothing to do wit rejecting the south, unless you think New Jersey is the south (somehow I've heard it before on this site).
Texas it is its own part of the country some say its the South, some say Southwest and some say West and its a little bit of all of them the state extends from near the LA Border to Mexico.
No one who knows what they're talking about would ever call Texas the "West". It's a combination of the South, the Southwest, and the Plains.
No one who knows what they're talking about would ever call Texas the "West". It's a combination of the South, the Southwest, and the Plains.
West and Southwest are not mutually exclusive categories. Being from Southern Arizona, I tell people here on the East Coast that I grew up "in a college town out West." I'm not sure why I identify more as a Westerner than a Southwesterner. Perhaps because I see a lot of cultural similarities between Arizona and Idaho, as well as between Arizona and Central and Eastern California, that I think the more general term "West" works better.
The Trans-Pecos region of Texas is culturally very similar to New Mexico and Arizona. And one could easily argue that New Mexico and Arizona both in the Southwest and the West. Thus, I think that a logical person would be correct in asserting that the Trans-Pecos region is in the West.
No one who knows what they're talking about would ever call Texas the "West". It's a combination of the South, the Southwest, and the Plains.
Then I suppose that means all who actually live there, because El Paso is clearly a down-home southern city...
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