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Old 05-23-2015, 08:50 AM
 
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I think California's influence is actually waning.

The heyday of California's influence, which was unprecedented in scale and scope in American history, was from WW II through the 1990s.

Since then social and cultural influences in America have distributed out to some degree in part due to the revival of cities, resurgent regionalism, and the ground leveling effect of the internet.

Now, don't get me wrong. California is still a juggernaut of cultural influence and significance, but the nature of cultural development in America is different than it was in the 20th century.
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Old 05-23-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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I mean a few things.

1) More multi-racial in general
2) More Hispanic, yes (I don't have a problem with this. Even the illegal immigrants are just chasing opportunity and to me that makes them good Americans!)
3) Larger gap between the rich and poor (this is a bad thing IMO)
4) The embrace of the "California ideology" - ie, socially liberal but fiscally right wing, the latter being largely the cause of #3
5) Warmer and drier climates due to global warming everywhere
6) People are becoming more self-centered, unfriendly and "fake happy" which is due to Californian and capitalist influence
I agree with most of this, but CA is not fiscally right wing.

A lot of businesses don't go to CA because of all the regulations on running a business there.

Also, if this were the case, they would managed their water supplies better, so the agriculture industry could have been sustained during the drought. Victor Davis Hanson has written a number of thoughtful articles pointing out how CA policy created the water shortage in this industry.
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Old 05-23-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: LoS ScAnDaLoUs KiLLa CaLI
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Since then social and cultural influences in America have distributed out to some degree in part due to the revival of cities, resurgent regionalism, and the ground leveling effect of the internet.
Couldn't one make the argument that California's influence IS increasing BECAUSE of the internet? Not just because of Silicon Valley or anything, but really because mass media can be dispersed much easier due to the internet?

This thread still makes no sense though. California is just as influenced by other places as California influences America. This generation really is the first generation that the majority of people were born in California, and most of those people, internet racists barely count as people.
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Old 05-25-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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I agree with most of this, but CA is not fiscally right wing.

A lot of businesses don't go to CA because of all the regulations on running a business there.

Also, if this were the case, they would managed their water supplies better, so the agriculture industry could have been sustained during the drought. Victor Davis Hanson has written a number of thoughtful articles pointing out how CA policy created the water shortage in this industry.
Actually California screws over businesses and workers alike. It's not exactly right wing, but it's not liberal or progressive either. Regulations in and of themselves are not progressive or socialist, indeed they are often be put in place to discourage competition with big business. If California truly was progressive, it would be a more affordable place to live. There's no doubt that the state's policies, whether you want to call them left or right wing are in place to serve the rich.
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