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Old 07-21-2015, 01:36 PM
 
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Looking at union membership rates and lack of pro-business "Right to Work" laws it seems like the Northeast, Alaska, Hawaii (that one is surprising to me) and the West Coast are the most "pro-worker", though that's only by American standards. Montana seems like it's the only state that is truly on the side of working people, as at-will firing does not exist there IIRC. Every other state, regardless of how it ranks, is still an embarrassment, though the South seems to be the absolute worst.

The Midwest historically was pro-worker and still rates much better than the South, but it looks like unfortunately it has been on a libertarian/anti-worker roll lately, with more and more Midwest states becoming right to work and union membership declining rapidly.

Surprisingly, nearly all of the states according to a study of Twitter that tweeted most about loving their job are out West. Utah ranked No. 2 in country for job satisfaction, Monster study reveals | KSL.com Not sure if that actually translates to better working conditions or if people out West are just less likely to complain about their jobs due to cultural differences, but it seems like people in the Northeast, eastern Midwest and South in particular hate their jobs.

Why do you think the Midwest is turning against its workers? Historically like I said it's been hard working, but also in favor of giving workers rights and privileges. I wonder why there is more of an attitude that workers have it too good there lately?
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:06 PM
 
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Look at the differences in terms of Red states and Blue states.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:19 PM
 
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Look at the differences in terms of Red states and Blue states.
There are many red and blue states in the top and bottom of the study metioned in the op.

Hate your job? Pack it up, pack it in – it’s time to head out West

Typical American Red vs Blue political obsession won't work here i guess, sorry.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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What work do you want to do?

For example, if you want to be an insurance executive Connecticut might be a good choice; but if you want to be a cowboy it would basically be in the lowest 5 or 6.

IMO, basing where you want to live and work on how easy it would be for your employer to fire you shows a horrible lack of respect for your own abilities and effort. If you really think that being fired at will is what you're destined for, perhaps you should work on improving your working skill set.

I have been on both sides of this fence, both as the laid off and the guy who has to let you go, and if there is one universal truth in business, it is that employers DO NOT WANT to fire any of their employees. Just having somebody in a job shows an investment in time, resources and training that makes firing them actually a failure on the part of management.

I understand situations where a specific manager/supervisor may "have it in" for an employee. Maybe you got the job instead of who he/she wanted, maybe you are both trying to date the same girl, there's 100 reasons it can happen, but no matter what the reason, it's ineffective management and should be frowned upon by the upper level managers.

Also, understand that the "investment" involved at the lowest rung of the ladder; those jobs where high turnover is expected, will literally be as small as the employer can possibly/legally make it. Replacing someone who sells hamburgers is easier/cheaper than replacing someone who sells suits at Brook Brothers who is easier to replace that a guy who sells stock and bonds, and so on.

Getting back to the point, though, you really need to figure out what you want to do for a career, and narrow your search to those areas that provide opportunities in that field.
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Old 07-21-2015, 02:59 PM
 
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What do you do for a living? It's really heavily dependent on that
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Old 07-21-2015, 03:13 PM
 
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What do you do for a living? It's really heavily dependent on that
I'm self-employed in my case. I agree it would largely depend on the work. The professional atmosphere seems a bit more flexible in say California vs New York, but I'd rather be blue collar or lower wage in the Northeast or Midwest, than in the South which is staunchly anti-worker, or the West which is far too expensive to make near minimum wage in and live comfortably.
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Old 07-25-2015, 08:34 AM
 
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I'm self-employed in my case. I agree it would largely depend on the work. The professional atmosphere seems a bit more flexible in say California vs New York, but I'd rather be blue collar or lower wage in the Northeast or Midwest, than in the South which is staunchly anti-worker, or the West which is far too expensive to make near minimum wage in and live comfortably.
Wait..are you honestly expecting to work on a minimum wage and live comfortably? The minimum wage was never meant for that..it's just to stop massive exploitation...no one ever said that you have to live comfortably or even live off of it...it's just there to stop people working in sweat shop like conditions with the same pay.
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