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Honestly, Louisville was the opposite for me...the downtown seemed very bad for its size!
I'll go with Providence. And Boston (can I do that?).
I felt like Louisville had a good size downtown for it's MSA, it's city pop is artificially inflated due to coterminous boundaries with Jefferson County.
I'll give you Providence but I feel Bostons downtown is appropriately sized for it's population and stature.
I felt like Louisville had a good size downtown for it's MSA, it's city pop is artificially inflated due to coterminous boundaries with Jefferson County.
I'll give you Providence but I feel Bostons downtown is appropriately sized for it's population and stature.
I guess it depends if you're using MSA or city limits. City limits Boston and San Francisco are both under 50 sq miles, but metro the downtowns seem appropriate. Providence is under 20 sq miles FWIW.
I guess it depends if you're using MSA or city limits. City limits Boston and San Francisco are both under 50 sq miles, but metro the downtowns seem appropriate. Providence is under 20 sq miles FWIW.
I wouldn't use city limits as Central Business Districts tend to service and reflect the greater area and not just the civic boundaries of the main city. The only reason to do that would be to bolster a homer argument.
I agree with most of what you said. I wouldn't exactly say that it's that special for the city that it's located in though. Denver is one of my favorite cities and 16th Street is really cute, but the downtown was pretty much what I expected when I went there.
Compared to many other downtowns, it's quite lively. And then add in that you have a baseball stadium directly downtown, football stadium/baskeball and hockey arena/amusement park all on the outskirts of downtown, plus LoDo and Larimer Square for entertainment, nightlife and restaurants, and consistently increasing housing being built downtown, Denver only gets better. Compare it to so many other downtowns that are dead after 5 p.m.
Downtown L.A. is getting better, but not that long ago, I'd say downtown Denver blew away downtown L.A. for activity and night life. (I haven't been directly in downtown L.A. for a few years though). But yes, other cities mayors have come to Denver to see what's been done right with downtown. There's definitely room for improvement, but the city makes great efforts to continue the improvement. For a metro area of only around 3 million, Denver has a nice downtown.
In the Southeast, Asheville (NC) and Charleston (SC) have attractive downtowns that are very bustling relative to the size of the cities. Of course both cities benefit from tourism - but also have plenty of amenities for locals to enjoy, which stand out far more than do the skylines.
I would assume we're talking metro areas, since the metro area is normally supporting the central downtown of the primary city, certainly not just the city itself.
Des Moines has a great one given the metro size.
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