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Old 08-27-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: The canyon (with my pistols and knife)
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BOOOOOOOOOOM!!!



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

On top of that, the metropolitan employment data for July 2015 was released earlier this week, and here's how the major Rust Belt MSAs fared in year-over-year job growth:


Numerical growth

+66,400 - Chicago
+46,900 - Detroit
+41,500 - Philadelphia
+32,800 - Pittsburgh
+27,700 - Cincinnati
+21,000 - St. Louis
+14,800 - Cleveland
+13,700 - Milwaukee
+12,600 - Buffalo
+9,300 - Rochester


Percent growth

+2.8% - Pittsburgh
+2.7% - Cincinnati
+2.5% - Detroit
+2.3% - Buffalo
+1.8% - Rochester
+1.6% - Milwaukee
+1.6% - St. Louis
+1.5% - Chicago
+1.5% - Philadelphia
+1.4% - Cleveland


Plain and simple, the Rust Belt isn't dying. It's molting.
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Old 08-27-2015, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Good to see! Chicago has always fared well, but its awesome seeing the other Rust Belt cities reinventing themselves and coming about full steam. Awesome!
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Old 08-28-2015, 03:36 AM
 
Location: Detroit
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Rep points .
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Old 08-28-2015, 05:22 AM
 
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Philly is post-industrial but I've not really seen it classified as Rust Belt.
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Old 08-28-2015, 06:42 AM
 
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All U.S. cities/metros report an increase in college educated, every year, basically since forever. So there's no boom in the Rust Belt; the data is just the consequence of college becoming the U.S. norm in the last 30 years.
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Old 08-28-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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That's fairly reflective of the Detroit area shifting from the automotive manufacturing hub to the concentrated automotive brain trust. You included Philly, but not the Twin Cities or Grand Rapids. Is it because they didn't experience the same declines?

Where can we go to find this data on other cities?
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Old 08-28-2015, 08:07 AM
 
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All U.S. cities/metros report an increase in college educated, every year, basically since forever. So there's no boom in the Rust Belt; the data is just the consequence of college becoming the U.S. norm in the last 30 years.
THIS!!! I truly hope the rust belt is recovering, being a Detroit and Buffalo native I would love nothing more. However at the same time, college has become "mainstream" so obviously degree attainment is up. A bachelors is the new high school diploma in today's world so i would imagine this is a country wide phenomenon. On the flip side its nice to see some positive population growth even if very minor.
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Old 08-28-2015, 09:56 AM
 
Location: Buffalo, NY
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All U.S. cities/metros report an increase in college educated, every year, basically since forever. So there's no boom in the Rust Belt; the data is just the consequence of college becoming the U.S. norm in the last 30 years.
The linked report shows data that does not agree with your statement.

http://cityobservatory.org/wp-conten...port-Final.pdf

The link includes data on all metro areas over 1 million, and the table I reference below includes percentage of 25-34 year old population with college degrees.

Several metro areas saw a decrease in college educated percentage between 2000 and 2012 (San Jose, Raleigh, Austin, Atlanta, Detroit, Dallas, Charlotte) but the remainder stayed the same or increased to varying degrees. Atlanta showed the largest percentage drop (6.1% to 4.9%).

The greatest increases were New Orleans (3.5% to 4.9%), Buffalo (3.8% to 5.2%), Pittsburgh (4.1% to 5.4%), and Denver 6.2% to 7.5%).

There is still great variation among Rust Belt cities, just as in the rest of the country, but 2 of the 4 most improved cities are Rust Belt.
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Old 08-28-2015, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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The linked report shows data that does not agree with your statement.
It doesn't matter, as he has his mind made up already regarding Chicago and other cities in "the rust belt." All data you find to the contrary will be ignored, in favor of "better metrics" that he will mold like clay to "prove" his point.
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Old 08-28-2015, 02:33 PM
 
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THIS!!! I truly hope the rust belt is recovering, being a Detroit and Buffalo native I would love nothing more. However at the same time, college has become "mainstream" so obviously degree attainment is up. A bachelors is the new high school diploma in today's world so i would imagine this is a country wide phenomenon. On the flip side its nice to see some positive population growth even if very minor.
How long has it been that you have been in Buffalo? It is going through a big time renaissance and I am no just saying this to be a homer. I posted these in the Buffalo area and I will post them here as well, because for some reason I feel like people here at C-D are so bizarre when it comes to Buffalo/NYS(outside of NYC).

Buffalo's transformations since 2007.

Part 1-

Buffalo Transforms Through Google Street View | The Public

Part 2-

Google Street View Reveals More of Buffalo's Transformation Since 2007 | The Public
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