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I think if human company is not particularly important to you and you make at least decent money, you might find the West Coast enjoyable. I'm an introvert myself but I like living in extroverted places with a lot of life. I can always go home at the end of the day if I need quiet.
Yes you clearly lack social skills if you are struggling so much on the West Coast (as it seems from several of your previous posts).
Who would generally have an easier time adapting to life in the opposite side of the country - an Easterner going to the West, or a Westerner going East? Saying the dividing line is the Mississippi River or so.
I think a Westerner would struggle with Eastern weather and an Easterner would struggle with the antisociality of the West.
Sounds about right. As originally a Midwesterner I found it easier to go east. Going west was okay, but it took some getting used to. Now I'd be fine if I was to head back that way.
Most difficult was going to the south, which is odd since the Midwest and the south really aren't as different as say out west and the NE.
EDIT: Scratch that. Living on South Beach without conversational Spanish was the most difficult. Well that and the party + work culture. It was an issue of fitting in and being comfortable mainly. Although my dating life was still good so...YMMV.
Don't hear of many people in the south (who enjoy it) moving anywhere else and liking it/fitting in. Of those I've known they tend to come back. Take it with a grain of salt though because I don't know as many people down here as I have in other areas (but still social...talking under 100).
There are actually non Natives that work at Native casinos, but it may be a matter of the selection process.
I suggest if you want to work at a Native casino in NY, Turning Stone Casino is the best bet.
Yes I was. Very rural...lots of old (100 years plus) homes on large lots...interspersed with farms. Huge tracts of forest in between. Actually a very pretty area in the summer. Amish also plentiful.
About 45 miles south of Buffalo, N.Y. in Cattaraugus County.
Yes, I had seen non-natives hired at the casino, but being that I had a decent resume and good interview skills...I was extremely surprised they would not even hire me to park cars. I guess I'm a tad bitter about that still. I really needed the job at the time.
In my shotgun generalized summary the East Coast seems more provincial, and cut throat vs that of out West just from my few experiences. I was born on the East Coast (New Jersey grew up in the South, and now live in the Midwest). The east coast mentality is always go-go-go, dominate the competition, take no prisoners. The west coast seemed definitely more laid back, and easier to transition into a day to day routine. Hell even Chicago is a lot friendlier than the most major cities I've been to on the east coast (Boston, Philly, NYC, DC). Huge generalization I know.
In my shotgun generalized summary the East Coast seems more provincial, and cut throat vs that of out West just from my few experiences. I was born on the East Coast (New Jersey grew up in the South, and now live in the Midwest). The east coast mentality is always go-go-go, dominate the competition, take no prisoners. The west coast seemed definitely more laid back, and easier to transition into a day to day routine. Hell even Chicago is a lot friendlier than the most major cities I've been to on the east coast (Boston, Philly, NYC, DC). Huge generalization I know.
I'd consider Chicago and places like Ohio part of the "greater East" in the same way states like Colorado are the West.
I'd consider Chicago and places like Ohio part of the "greater East" in the same way states like Colorado are the West.
Chicago as a big city, sure, as a NE city, not seeing it.
What part of Ohio? Cleveland (other great lakes cities) maybe a very slight amount, but someplace like Columbus no way.
Pittsburgh is really the last city going west that I've found to have enough in it to be still considered one of the NE cities and at that it's more of a NE light.
Colorado's the mountain west.
Then again I'd break the country up into about 10 distinct areas.
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I wonder why people think moving West is so much easier, when it's more expensive (on average) and the people are generally not as warm or inviting.
The other post summed it up for the most part, but I'd also add someone from say NYC could move to somewhere like Portland and for the most part only become irritated at worst. Whereas your typical modern PC and softer person from Portland is likely to be shell shocked by many areas of NYC (never mind tossing them into a bad area).
Maybe this wouldn't be the case if you were talking about the days of the loggers (as I see them as analogous to the old steel workers albeit the outdoor version), but modern day folks not a chance.
The other post summed it up for the most part, but I'd also add someone from say NYC could move to somewhere like Portland and for the most part only become irritated at worst. Whereas your typical modern PC and softer person from Portland is likely to be shell shocked by many areas of NYC (never mind tossing them into a bad area).
Maybe this wouldn't be the case if you were talking about the days of the loggers (as I see them as analogous to the old steel workers albeit the outdoor version), but modern day folks not a chance.
Isn't Manhattan actually quite a bit safer than Portland these days? I think New York City in general is, aside from the murder rate, which is mostly only a problem in a few trouble spots or if you run with the wrong people/buy hard street drugs. The crime in Portland, Seattle and urban California seems a lot more random and more likely to involve innocent people.
If you're gonna lump Denver in with California (which to me is reasonable from a cultural point of view) it makes sense to consider Ohio, Illinois etc eastern in the national scheme. The cultural difference between the Midwest and Northeast is negligible compared to either region's differences to the West or Deep South. There's not a big difference between rural Michigan and upstate New York.
In my shotgun generalized summary the East Coast seems more provincial, and cut throat vs that of out West just from my few experiences. I was born on the East Coast (New Jersey grew up in the South, and now live in the Midwest). The east coast mentality is always go-go-go, dominate the competition, take no prisoners. The west coast seemed definitely more laid back, and easier to transition into a day to day routine. Hell even Chicago is a lot friendlier than the most major cities I've been to on the east coast (Boston, Philly, NYC, DC). Huge generalization I know.
I find the unfriendliness of the East Coast and the West Coast different. Back East people are more openly aggressive and more likely to push you in line, but I find that they are also willing to give you a chance to win them over. Out West people aren't as likely to verbally abuse you if they dislike you or you offend them, but they will never forgive you in their hearts.
The Pacific Northwest is really odd. People in this region will thank their grumpy bus drivers yet if you try to say "good morning" to someone on a hiking trail here, they will ignore you at least 3 times out of 4 and often give you an ugly look as if you killed their mother.
I wonder why people think moving West is so much easier, when it's more expensive (on average) and the people are generally not as warm or inviting.
General attitude I found on the west coast (both California and the Pacific Northwest) is that people were a bit warmer.
As for your question, I'd say easier for an easterner moving out west if only because those areas get a lot more transplants and moving from other parts of the country. Much of the east has people who lived in the same area for generations, so it's harder to break into a social circle and it's more provincial.
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