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View Poll Results: Are Western downtowns different when compared to downtowns in other U.S. regions?
Yes! Definitely. 20 41.67%
No. 9 18.75%
Yes. Somewhat. 19 39.58%
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Old 02-04-2008, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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I think San Francisco and Seattle have downtowns that resemble the east coast cities. Other than those two, the other cities of the west coast don't have the density or variety of the east coast downtowns.
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Old 02-04-2008, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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I'd say midwestern and eastern downtowns tend to be older than western downtowns, which can be good and bad. You need some new development, but you need older buildings as well. It kind of adds charm.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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Surely. East Coast cities have much more established infrastructure and density than West Coast cities. To those who think cities like Seattle, Portland, Denver, or Phoenix have the density of New York, Chicago, Boston, or Philly (all four of which have a density of 10,000 people/sq. mile) that's just factually wrong. The only West Coast city that would be the exception is San Francisco. If there was a comparison, most Western and Southern cities (Atlanta, Charlotte, Houston, Dallas) have similar downtown density, whereas Midwestern (St. Louis, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Detroit) cities have developed much closer to the Northeastern urban model.
Seattle is more dense than Minny, Phoenix, Denver, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Portland, Charlotte etc.....While it may not be quite as urban as the northeastern heavyweights, it is not some sunbelt sprawler. San Francisco has the densest residential tract outside of Manhattan, so I am not sure why you are blowing these two cities off?
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:26 PM
 
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City of San Francisco's #1 industry is tourism. SF's downtown is mostly banks and finance.
Uhh...and law and consulting and accounting etc. San Francisco is the center of finance and corporate law on the westcoast.

And last time I checked, all of these were "industries." Otherwise, downtown Manhattan would also be lacking an industry.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:46 PM
 
Location: yeah
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Uhh...and law and consulting and accounting etc. San Francisco is the center of finance and corporate law on the westcoast.

And last time I checked, all of these were "industries." Otherwise, downtown Manhattan would also be lacking an industry.
That doesn't make it the economic powerhouse of the region.
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Old 02-04-2008, 05:51 PM
 
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That doesn't make it the economic powerhouse of the region.
It is clearly the financial capital of the west.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:15 PM
 
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It is clearly the financial capital of the west.
I'd say it's diminishing, though, and has been so for quite a while unfortunately... it's not what it used to be in terms of THE city of the West Coast.
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Old 02-04-2008, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Boston Metrowest (via the Philly area)
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Seattle is more dense than Minny, Phoenix, Denver, Atlanta, Houston, Dallas, Portland, Charlotte etc.....While it may not be quite as urban as the northeastern heavyweights, it is not some sunbelt sprawler. San Francisco has the densest residential tract outside of Manhattan, so I am not sure why you are blowing these two cities off?
I noted in my post that San Francisco was an exception. Seattle, too, comes closer than most Western cities, but I was trying to emphasize that San Francisco was the most on par in density to Northeastern cities.
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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There's really no way to generalize "western" downtowns. Denver and Phoenix are both cities in the west, and their downtowns couldn't be more different. One of these cities has a downtown that kicks ass, and the other one has a downtown that is a pathetic joke. Care to guess which is which?
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Old 02-04-2008, 09:53 PM
 
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There's really no way to generalize "western" downtowns. Denver and Phoenix are both cities in the west, and their downtowns couldn't be more different. One of these cities has a downtown that kicks ass, and the other one has a downtown that is a pathetic joke. Care to guess which is which?
Agreed, Denver and San Francisco are both cities in the west, one of these cities has a world class downtown known the world over and the other is a pathetic joke. Care to guess which is which ?
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