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I don't really hear people differentiate between an "eastern" states and the "east coast". I guess it depends on how a person defines an area, and no one will ever completely agree 100%, it's all perspective
You make a good point. There are some that are specific (as I am) and those who just go with the generic descriptions. For some, like me, I define VT as New England because, well, thats where it is. Many will just refer to it as "east" or "east coast". Same goes for IL, MI, WI, etc... alot will call them midwestern, which they are, but theyre also Great Lakes states. It all depends on how people describe them.
If you and Steve-O would both like to believe that a state that is the site of the first naval shipyard in the USA is no more coastal than Arizona, with all due respect, knock yourselves out.
I would greatly appreciate being able to converse with you in a civil manner, and am going to ask you to stop resorting to childish insults.
I am not denying the first Naval Shipyard to Pennsylvania, I'm sure it is something to be proud of, but your statement in no way shape or form tells anyone that this shipyard was on the ocean. No one ever said it was impossible to have a shipyard on a river, I understand you have pride in your state and maybe even the river is salty no fresh water, as most rivers tend to be for a couple of miles inland, but that does not change the fact that the first naval shipyard was not on the ocean.
Pennsylvania in fact is seen as a coastal state as Vermont, just as the map i posted stated, But by the logic that Vermont of Pennsylvania are east coast states Arizona has every right to call itself a west coast state, which I disagree with but the logic used in contradicting.
Seattle & Portland are west-coast cities- they're also sometimes nicknamed "wet coast" cities after all. However, further inland cities such as Spokane, or inland empire cities in CA I'd not consider "west coast" as they're too far from the coast and are different culturally from the big cities along the western edge. As such, Phoenix & Las Vegas are "western" cities but they are not coastal- they are in deserts. I'd never think of them as part of the "West Coast." And to the person who said palm trees, beach, etc, etc west coast so the Pacific NW isn't westcoast they definitely are- the "West Coast" classification goes up to the coastal parts of BC, Canada.
Found this trivia question somewhat relavant to the topic and since nobody took me up on the offer here is the answer:
RENO, NV! You wouldn't think Reno is further west, but it IS!
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