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Old 06-08-2017, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I argued this before, but wanted to repeat. Unlike states like Illinois and Nevada, Texas is not one dominated by a single metro, so I feel it is more important to compared Austin to its peers rather than random minor cities/towns in the rest of the state. I consider there to be six "major" metros in Texas, DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, and maybe Hidalgo County, though that is the only one I've never been to, so that is based on population. I don't consider Austin "not Texan" because I don't seen any quality that is shared by the four or five other major metro regions but not by Austin. I see people try to say Austin is more liberal, but Austin is much more Democrat than it is Liberal (I mean, didn't the core city try to ban plastic bags at stores and put restrictions that pushed out Uber and Lyft?). Houston and DFW are moderate (no idea on San Antonio), but El Paso and Hidalgo Country are also very Democrat, if not more so, so that is hardly a deciding factor.
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Old 06-08-2017, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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Portland OR
Seattle WA
Austin TX
Denver CO


All these states are wicked conservative outside of a few large metros
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Old 06-09-2017, 01:05 AM
 
Location: Appalachian New York, Formerly Louisiana
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I argued this before, but wanted to repeat. Unlike states like Illinois and Nevada, Texas is not one dominated by a single metro, so I feel it is more important to compared Austin to its peers rather than random minor cities/towns in the rest of the state. I consider there to be six "major" metros in Texas, DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, and maybe Hidalgo County, though that is the only one I've never been to, so that is based on population. I don't consider Austin "not Texan" because I don't seen any quality that is shared by the four or five other major metro regions but not by Austin. I see people try to say Austin is more liberal, but Austin is much more Democrat than it is Liberal (I mean, didn't the core city try to ban plastic bags at stores and put restrictions that pushed out Uber and Lyft?). Houston and DFW are moderate (no idea on San Antonio), but El Paso and Hidalgo Country are also very Democrat, if not more so, so that is hardly a deciding factor.
I agree entirely with you on this. Austin is not un-Texan. If it isn't of Texas, than neither is Dallas, College Station, or Houston.

People have to understand that a city that does not fit its state is not just a little different from other metros; it's VERY different. New York City and Chicago are the penultimate examples of a city that could be removed from its host state and be culturally independent.

Austin is not different enough from other Texas cities to be considered in this same league.
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Old 06-11-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I argued this before, but wanted to repeat. Unlike states like Illinois and Nevada, Texas is not one dominated by a single metro, so I feel it is more important to compared Austin to its peers rather than random minor cities/towns in the rest of the state. I consider there to be six "major" metros in Texas, DFW, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso, and maybe Hidalgo County, though that is the only one I've never been to, so that is based on population. I don't consider Austin "not Texan" because I don't seen any quality that is shared by the four or five other major metro regions but not by Austin. I see people try to say Austin is more liberal, but Austin is much more Democrat than it is Liberal (I mean, didn't the core city try to ban plastic bags at stores and put restrictions that pushed out Uber and Lyft?). Houston and DFW are moderate (no idea on San Antonio), but El Paso and Hidalgo Country are also very Democrat, if not more so, so that is hardly a deciding factor.
Both Houston and Austin are very liberal in their city limits. Banning plastic bags is the ultimate liberal nanny state act. I'm not sure about Uber and Lyft. Houston has a lesbian mayor who demanded that pastors turn over their church sermons for government review so they can see what is preached about the gay lifestyle. However Austin is the MORE liberal city and is the most liberal in Texas.

Austin is also liberal compared to many cities outside Texas there are many places even outside the South that are less liberal.
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Old 06-11-2017, 08:48 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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I would have to say that New Orleans IS culturally different than the rest of Louisiana, even compared to some of its suburbs.

There's also something about Savannah that sets it apart from the rest of Georgia.
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Old 06-11-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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Portland OR
Seattle WA
Austin TX
Denver CO


All these states are wicked conservative outside of a few large metros
3 of those 4 states have gone blue the past 3 elections.
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Old 06-11-2017, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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3 of those 4 states have gone blue the past 3 elections.
Yeah because of the major cities, if you take them out, those are all red states.

Presidential election 2016

WA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._(state),_2016
OR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...n_Oregon,_2016
CO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...Colorado,_2016
TX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...in_Texas,_2016
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Old 06-11-2017, 10:57 PM
 
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Homer has a very different feel from the rest of Alaska. Anchorage too, feels more like it should be in Colorado.
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Old 06-12-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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Portland OR
Seattle WA
Austin TX
Denver CO


All these states are wicked conservative outside of a few large metros
What metros in Texas are conservative?

Also wasn't aware WA state, part of the "Unchurched Belt" is conservative. Spokane is purple at best.
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Old 06-12-2017, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Middle America
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Austin is the quintessential Texas city, summing up the state better than any of the other cities. It could not exist elsewhere else. Anyone saying otherwise has probably never been to that city, and is filling the blanks with assumptions based on posts, blogs, and statistics. Austin is uniquely Texan.

Even focusing on politics in that town is dumb. You could remove the voting patterns, as well as the fact that the capital is there, and the overall vibe, heart, and character of the town would remain unchanged.

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