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That wasn't my experience living in the Cincinnati area for 22 years, but of course any post in this thread is going to be subjective. I'm not bashing Cincinnati -- I love the place, and hope to move back someday, but the prevailing attitude is that beyond the I-275 belt, there be dragons.
Ok but honestly if we look at what makes cities unique, Cincinnati is in line with most of Ohio where Cleveland isn't.
I don't think this is the case at all honestly. Most of the smaller cities in Southeastern and South Central PA (Allentown, Reading, Lancaster, York, Harrisburg, etc) look and feel like smaller-scale versions of Philly.
I don't think this is the case at all honestly. Most of the smaller cities in Southeastern and South Central PA (Allentown, Reading, Lancaster, York, Harrisburg, etc) look and feel like smaller-scale versions of Philly.
To me those places have more in common with Pittsburgh and Baltimore than Philly.
To me those places have more in common with Pittsburgh and Baltimore than Philly.
Do you care to elaborate?
I mean, I consider Philly and Baltimore to be pretty similar cities anyway - both are within the "rowhouse belt" which runs through the Mid Atlantic. I don't see anything in particular which makes Philly stand out from them except that it has more gentrification in its core around Center City.
Pittsburgh is a bit different again, but I really don't think it's that similar overall. We have plenty of rowhouses out here, but it's not like the urban core is almost entirely rowhouses like in the smaller cities of Eastern PA. We also don't really have a Latino population here to speak of.
The oddball PA cities are Erie (as was noted) and the Wyoming Valley cities like Scranton/Wilkes Barre. They look far more like New England/Upstate NY cities than the other cities in Pennsylvania.
I don't think this is the case at all honestly. Most of the smaller cities in Southeastern and South Central PA (Allentown, Reading, Lancaster, York, Harrisburg, etc) look and feel like smaller-scale versions of Philly.
Haven't been to any of those places, but Chester does evoke Philly in a couple ways.
I mean, I consider Philly and Baltimore to be pretty similar cities anyway - both are within the "rowhouse belt" which runs through the Mid Atlantic. I don't see anything in particular which makes Philly stand out from them except that it has more gentrification in its core around Center City.
Pittsburgh is a bit different again, but I really don't think it's that similar overall. We have plenty of rowhouses out here, but it's not like the urban core is almost entirely rowhouses like in the smaller cities of Eastern PA. We also don't really have a Latino population here to speak of.
The oddball PA cities are Erie (as was noted) and the Wyoming Valley cities like Scranton/Wilkes Barre. They look far more like New England/Upstate NY cities than the other cities in Pennsylvania.
Aren't only 8% of residences in Pittsburgh attached?
I mean, I consider Philly and Baltimore to be pretty similar cities anyway - both are within the "rowhouse belt" which runs through the Mid Atlantic. I don't see anything in particular which makes Philly stand out from them except that it has more gentrification in its core around Center City.
Pittsburgh is a bit different again, but I really don't think it's that similar overall. We have plenty of rowhouses out here, but it's not like the urban core is almost entirely rowhouses like in the smaller cities of Eastern PA. We also don't really have a Latino population here to speak of.
The oddball PA cities are Erie (as was noted) and the Wyoming Valley cities like Scranton/Wilkes Barre. They look far more like New England/Upstate NY cities than the other cities in Pennsylvania.
Baltimore has and still is heavily based around industry, more so then Philly ever was. That's the case for a lot of south central PA towns. They where built up by industry during the industrial revolution. Also for lack of a better way of putting it, the attitude and demeanor of what people act like and the interest they have in those areas isn't similar to Philly at all, they are much more blue collor and generally more conservative, also soth central PA is mostly Steelers-Ravens country the Eagles are the 3rd favorite team in much of the region. York, Lancaster and Harrisburg all have row homes, that's really the only thing they have in common with Philly
Really? Where are the significant numbers of Latinos in Pittsburgh or Baltimore?
Don't see how that's relevant Philly doesn't have that big of a latino population either, outside of a few areas. York and Lancaster have almost always had a higher latino population then the rest of the state.
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