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Old 05-28-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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Welcome to City-Data, the site where internet nerds are so busy trying to look smart and well-traveled that they will even try to tell YOU what YOUR hometown, city, or state are like, even if they have never even been there before or just passed through on the interstate and made a 5 minute stop for gas and a restroom break.

You just have to learn to ignore folks like that. I've even had to do it in this very thread, watching people say false stuff about my hometown and region like it's fact when I lived there most of my life and go back several times a year every year.

Google search bar users turned message board travel experts is what they are.
I've been there, sorry.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:07 AM
 
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SC is my home state and it is undoubtedly Deep South.
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Old 05-28-2016, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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You just have to learn to ignore folks like that. I've even had to do it in this very thread, watching people say false stuff about my hometown and region like it's fact when I lived there most of my life and go back several times a year every year.

Google search bar users turned message board travel experts is what they are.
This issue is bizaree though because there is no real 'Deep South'. They capitalize something that is not a formal tangible entity and the definition of it varies from person to person.

And they can't explain why it is important to label some southern states as 'Deep South'.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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This issue is bizaree though because there is no real 'Deep South'. They capitalize something that is not a formal tangible entity and the definition of it varies from person to person.

And they can't explain why it is important to label some southern states as 'Deep South'.
So these regions are just a figament of my imagination? Yeah right. I think you just cant stand to lose a debate. So far I'm winning this one. Go home.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Morgantown, WV
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SC is my home state and it is undoubtedly Deep South.
Half of my family is from SC, I used to live there as well and I've been there many, many, many times since. I agree 110%.

I'm kinda surprised that this is even up for debate.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Anaheim
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I would just go with:

Florida
Georgia
Alabama
Mississippi
Louisiana
South Carolina

I am thinking geography more than anything else.

For that, we would put in southern and central Texas as well.

Oklahoma has been described as a "parody of the South" in one publication I read. A former Okie I know agreed with that one.

NC, AR, VA, and TN are farther away from the Deep South geography wise, but the original colonies being the "Old South" I could see.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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everything is up for debate.

the people who say SC is 'Deep South' but not NC cannot articulate how SC is more like LA and MS than NC.


I have not been able to find one SC oriented website that refers to the state as part of the 'Deep South'.
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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everything is up for debate.

the people who say SC is 'Deep South' but not NC cannot articulate how SC is more like LA and MS than NC.


I have not been able to find one SC oriented website that refers to the state as part of the 'Deep South'.
Maybe you haven't looked hard enough. You're the only one on city-data who thinks SC isn't the Deep South so your method is to say not only does the Deep South not exist but that all of us on here are idiots and you're the only one who knows anything. Pathetic.
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Deep South | Definition of Deep South by Merriam-Webster

Definition of Deep South


  1. region SE United States —usually considered to include Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, North Carolina, South Carolina, and all or part of the adjacent states of Florida, Virginia, Tennessee, Arkansas, and Texas
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Old 05-28-2016, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Maybe you haven't looked hard enough. You're the only one on city-data who thinks SC isn't the Deep South so your method is to say not only does the Deep South not exist but that all of us on here are idiots and you're the only one who knows anything. Pathetic.
i don' think there is a 'Deep SOuth' period. it makes no sense to add Deep in front of South.

but you are missing the nuance of my argument, and thast is how are NC and VA so different from SC and the other states you thrwo into the Deep South bucket, given these states of NC and Va were much more similar to the 'deep south' states when the expression was first used.

you have not explained how you excluded two states htat were in the confederacy and had plnatations with slave labor, in the cotton belt, etc from the 'Deep South' label.

Richmdon has more confederate monuments it is downtown than any other southern city that I've seen, and it was the capital of the Conederacy, and VA is where our country's most proimnent slaveholders, Jefferson, Washigont, and Madison and MOnroe lived.

NC's state flag is a derivation of the confederate flag.

I"ve also pointed out that Nixon an integrationist and civil rights leader, won SC, NC, VA, and TN but lost the other states you call the 'Deep South' to the racist Democrat governor of AL, George Wallace. That seems to indicate SC was more like Va and NC than those other states.

I think most people in SC think of Al and MS when they hear the Deep South expression.

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