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View Poll Results: Are Arizona and New Mexico Southern states?
Yes 11 6.43%
No 160 93.57%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-22-2016, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Men in pick-up trucks with pro-gun, pro-Jesus and pro-life bumper stickers. This deep-seated mistrust of big government.
By this criteria Pa, Oh, In, Ill, Mo, and much of the rest of the Midwest, Mountain states, and the interior Northwest and California are "the South" as well.
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Old 05-22-2016, 07:55 AM
 
Location: northern Vermont - previously NM, WA, & MA
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Technically, no.

But when I was in Arizona recently, it did feel very culturally southern to me. Men in pick-up trucks with pro-gun, pro-Jesus and pro-life bumper stickers. This deep-seated mistrust of big government. Arizona also seems to be getting only redder politically while its neighbors (New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada) get bluer. The only western influences I noticed were in the tourist attractions. Arizona has definitely become a southern "ally" even if it isn't part of the South.
Anti government, pro-gun libertarians exist in the West? Imagine that. . I'm pretty sure you'll find men in big pick up trucks with NRA stickers in every corner of rural America.

As to the pro-life bumper stickers, well plenty of those here in NM as well. But this state is also very heavily Catholic so that's not really something that's unique to the South. I'm also pretty sure red and blue state identities don't necessarily always transcend into regional characteristics either. Religion in the Southwest does not even come close to the influences found in the South.

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Old 05-22-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Every Southern state saw a decline in its non-Catholic Christian population since 1990 except Louisiana, with nine of 15 states witnessing double-digit drops in percentages.
The Decline of Christianity in the Bible Belt | People - Opposing Views

I think one factor is hispanic immigration, catholicism isnt declining as much as protestantism
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Old 05-22-2016, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Austell, Georgia
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This thread should have been crickets.
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:28 AM
 
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I think you meant Mexico?
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Old 05-23-2016, 12:38 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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How did six people vote yes on this?
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Old 05-23-2016, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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I think you meant Mexico?
It's not new and it's not Mexico.

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Old 05-23-2016, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Greater Orlampa CSA
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In a geographic/literalist sense, yes, it's in the southern part of the US. Culturally/geologically? No. My opinion, I know it's a generalization, but start at Mexico, draw a line directly north thru San Antonio's western suburbs, all the way up to Canada. Everything west of that, is the west, culturally and geologically IMO. Now there's a lot of differentiation, but in general, since I'm in the East, and it's convenient to have 4 regions (MW, SE, NE and W), that's just how it is. Just curious, can anyone think of a city that has qualities of all 4 regions? Geologically or culturally. I can think of some that have 3, but not
4.
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Old 05-23-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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Every Southern state saw a decline in its non-Catholic Christian population since 1990 except Louisiana, with nine of 15 states witnessing double-digit drops in percentages.
The Decline of Christianity in the Bible Belt | People - Opposing Views

I think one factor is hispanic immigration, catholicism isnt declining as much as protestantism
A very large portion of Hispanic immigrants aren't Catholic but evangelical Protestant. Mainline Protestantism is probably what's on the decline, but evangelical Protestantism, particularly the Pentecostal/Charismatic strains, is big among Hispanics in particular.
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Old 05-23-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Heck to the no.
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