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Well, Louisville may not have been as White then but it is now. I am sure there was also a point that Chicago wasn't as Polish.
It is? I think people that know that the city and county merged, realize that Louisville prior to the merger had a pretty substantial Black population and still does, given the situation.
Most German-Americans in areas which aren't heavily German are well mixed with other groups now, considering it's been 100+ years now since there has been a mass influx of German-speakers
True-and I bet many of the "Germans" in Philly are actually Jewish.
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Most people with Scotch-Irish ancestry tend to identify as "American" IIRC. While later Catholic Irish tended to stay in established cities, many did migrate west. Kansas City was in large part first built up by Irish immigrants, IIRC.
Yeah, I was thinking more recently though; Boston/Philly are #1/#2 overall percentage wise and maybe even overall numbers. Philly also has the second largest Italian-American population after NYC with Boston not far behind, despite it being so known as an "Irish city". Specific neighborhoods with the highest percent of Irish are mostly in New York (Breezy Point/Rockaway, Queens, Woodlawn in the Bronx).
Irish did go West though, even some to Montana and California.
Heavy Irish and Jewish population I believe are two examples. Plus Germans, which are one of Philly's largest ancestral groups, plus a nearly 20% Italian population, which isn't as big as the other NE cities but still noticeable. So to say they're not alike at all is really stretching the truth.
20% Italian? The city is not even 30% White. Where did you get 20% Italian from?
You might want to move your decimal point a tad. The Italian population is under 3%. Hardly indicative of a super strong Northeast pattern. On the other hand it is over 60% Black, more indicative of a Southern pattern.
I would say that if you have less than 3% of your population being Italian, you are considerably less Northeastern. When you have more English ancestry than Italian, I would say it makes you less Northeastern.
100 miles makes a difference. Let's not wishfully think Baltimore is just another Philly. What in Baltimore gave you the impression that there were that many Italians?
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You might want to move your decimal point a tad. The Italian population is under 3%. Hardly indicative of a super strong Northeast pattern. On the other hand it is over 60% Black, more indicative of a Southern pattern.
I would say that if you have less than 3% of your population being Italian, you are considerably less Northeastern. When you have more English ancestry than Italian, I would say it makes you less Northeastern.
100 miles makes a difference. Let's not wishfully think Baltimore is just another Philly. What in Baltimore gave you the impression that there were that many Italians?
According to this 1990 study, Baltimore was in the top 15 cities of in terms of Italian population.
You might want to move your decimal point a tad. The Italian population is under 3%. Hardly indicative of a super strong Northeast pattern. On the other hand it is over 60% Black, more indicative of a Southern pattern.
I would say that if you have less than 3% of your population being Italian, you are considerably less Northeastern. When you have more English ancestry than Italian, I would say it makes you less Northeastern.
100 miles makes a difference. Let's not wishfully think Baltimore is just another Philly. What in Baltimore gave you the impression that there were that many Italians?
Baltimore is the most like Philly of any other cities out there. It has more in common with Philly than it does with Richmond.
I mean don't get me wrong, for the South it has a significant Italian presence however it still lags behind New Orleans which is the most Italian city in the South that isn't made up of transplants. They've been there forever.
Notice that the most Northern ethnic groups were in greater number when Baltimore had more of a Southern feel. That is what makes it so interesting.
And that source is very, very wrong. For Philadelphia, for example, it lists the total number of people claiming Italian as a single ancestry. For Baltimore and other cities, it lists the total number of people reporting Italian ancestry.
Baltimore MSA (2000)
Anne Arundel - 34,463
Baltimore County - 53,637
Harford - 20,845
Howard - 17,440
Baltimore City - 18,492
True-and I bet many of the "Germans" in Philly are actually Jewish.
I doubt it. Most of Philadelphia's Jewish population came from Russia and other places in Eastern Europe.
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