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Old 08-08-2016, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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How many secondary cities does your metro have?

I will define "secondary" as any city that has at least 10% the population of the major city.

Seattle: 684,451 (100.0%)
1. Tacoma: 207,948 (30.4%)
2. Bellevue: 139,820 (20.4%)
3. Kent: 126,952 (18.5%)
4. Everett: 108,010 (15.8%)
5. Renton: 100,242 (14.6%)
6. Federal Way: 95,171 (13.9%)
7. Kirkland: 87,281 (12.8%)
8. Auburn: 77,006 (11.3%)

So Seattle has 8 "secondary" cities that are at least 10% of it's population (68,445) with the largest city being Tacoma at 30.4%.

So what about your metro, or any other one you are interested in? Also if you are going to add cities in the CSA then put an * at the end to specify that it is outside the MSA.

IrishIllini pointed out that this will favor smaller cities, so you can also mention how many cities have 100,000 people or more, in that case Seattle has 5 cities.

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Old 08-08-2016, 08:03 PM
 
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Originally Posted by grega94 View Post
How many secondary cities does your metro have?

I will define "secondary" as any city that has at least 10% the population of the major city.

Seattle: 684,451 (100.0%)
1. Tacoma: 207,948 (30.4%)
2. Bellevue: 139,820 (20.4%)
3. Kent: 126,952 (18.5%)
4. Everett: 108,010 (15.8%)
5. Renton: 100,242 (14.6%)
6. Federal Way: 95,171 (13.9%)
7. Kirkland: 87,281 (12.8%)
8. Auburn: 77,006 (11.3%)

So Seattle has 8 "secondary" cities that are at least 10% of it's population (68,445) with the largest city being Tacoma at 30.4%.

So what about your metro, or any other one you are interested in? Also if you are going to add cities in the CSA then put an * at the end to specify that it is outside the MSA.
The criteria favors smaller municipalities. A place like NYC would need a secondary city of 850k+. Not sure that exists in NYS outside of NYC. Same with IL. Don't think there's a city in IL outside of Chicago with a population of 270k+.
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Old 08-08-2016, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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This thread favors smaller municipalities. A place like NYC would need a secondary city of 850k+. Not sure that exists in NYS outside of NYC. Same with IL. Don't think there's a city in IL outside of Chicago with a population of 270k+.
I realized that this might be a trend, but I think it will be interesting either way, but if you want you can also say how many cities of 100K+ in that case Seattle has 5.
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:07 PM
 
Location: The City
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If 100k then zero for Philly. Municipal boundaries are really small around here

Well at 10 percent would be greater then 155k so still no
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Old 08-08-2016, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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If 100k then zero for Philly. Municipal boundaries are really small around here

Well at 10 percent would be greater then 155k so still no
wow, I'm actually surprised, I thought there would be at least one city, but like you said it has to do with the small boundries, but even then it's just mainly Camden, Wilmington and Trenton.
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Old 08-08-2016, 10:17 PM
 
Location: South Beach and DT Raleigh
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Raleigh: 451,066
Secondary cities of 10%+ population, inclusive of the entire Research Triangle CSA
Durham: 257,636 (though they'll take exception to being a secondary city because of their separate MSA)
Cary: 159,769
Chapel Hill: 59,568
Apex: 45,585 (barely makes the cut)

Charlotte: 827,097
Secondary cities of 10%+ population, inclusive of the entire Metrolina CSA
Concord: 87,696
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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I realized that this might be a trend, but I think it will be interesting either way, but if you want you can also say how many cities of 100K+ in that case Seattle has 5.
In that case, Chicago has 5:

Aurora (200.5K)
Joliet (148K)
Naperville (146K)
Elgin (111K)
Kenosha (101K)

Obviously none have 10% of the population of Chicago, but Aurora may one day. Chicagoland also has several municipalities in the 70-80K range.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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Twin Cities, only Minneapolis has greater than 10% of the MSA. St Paul is about 8%.

Largest suburbs outside of the core cities are Bloomington, Maple Grove, Woodbury, Brooklyn Park, Eden Prairie... All with 60,000-90,000 people. There are 10 total burbs greater than 60k.
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Old 08-09-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Louisville
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Twin Cities, only Minneapolis has greater than 10% of the MSA. St Paul is about 8%.

Largest suburbs outside of the core cities are Bloomington, Maple Grove, Woodbury, Brooklyn Park, Eden Prairie... All with 60,000-90,000 people. There are 10 total burbs greater than 60k.
The criteria was 10% of the core city, not the MSA.
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Old 08-09-2016, 08:00 AM
 
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The criteria was 10% of the core city, not the MSA.
Well in my defense we have a newborn so I'm sleep deprived…

It depends on if you combine Minneapolis and St. Paul as "core city". If so there's roughly 700,000 people between those two. According to the 2010 U.S. Census there are actually only three suburbs that are more than 10% of the combined total of Minneapolis and St. Paul. Those would be Bloomington, Brooklyn Park and Plymouth.

If you use Minneapolis alone as the core city and there are probably about 15 to 20 suburbs that would meet the criteria. And of course St. Paul.
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