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Old 12-25-2010, 10:04 AM
 
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Minneapolis/St. Paul is not strictly liberal, unfortunately. There are many conservatives here and we almost elected a "red" governor. People with money often vote conservatively to protect it, and there is a lot of money here.
Not in Minneapolis! Minneapolis and most of the inner-ring suburbs are about as liberal as you can get. WE didn't vote for a "red" governor. The city is VERY socially and politically liberal. Many of the suburbs and exurbs are becoming far more conservative (on many issues), but the city itself is still among the most socially liberal places I've ever lived.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Liberalness is overrated.

It's like OK, this person supports homosexuality, legalizing weed, free healthcare and more, but hate Christianity, southern culture, conservatives and more.

I think both liberals and conservatives can be rather ignorant and close-minded; another thing about these "open-minded" areas is that they lack vibrant black communities.
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Old 12-25-2010, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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True....extreme right OR left can be downright irritating. Stay near the middle people!!
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:20 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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True....extreme right OR left can be downright irritating. Stay near the middle people!!
Exactly. Gimme a moderate city.
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:41 AM
 
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Liberalness is overrated.

It's like OK, this person supports homosexuality, legalizing weed, free healthcare and more, but hate Christianity, southern culture, conservatives and more.

I think both liberals and conservatives can be rather ignorant and close-minded; another thing about these "open-minded" areas is that they lack vibrant black communities.
Not every liberal "hates" Christianity, the south, conservatives, etc. I know many very liberal Christians; they happen to think that liberal social and political policies align closely with their religious faith. There are also plenty of Southern liberals. America as a whole seems to love easy sound-bite generalizations, but the reality is far more complex.

As far as vibrant black communities: Minneapolis doesn't have the long-standing African American communities like you find in places like DC, but there is certainly a black "community", and if you include African-born black people in "black community" than the city has a very vibrant Somali community. And as far as San Francisco goes (the other most liberal city I've lived in) the black population is pretty small, but since when does percentage of black residents define a city? It's still a diverse place.
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Not every liberal "hates" Christianity, the south, conservatives, etc. I know many very liberal Christians; they happen to think that liberal social and political policies align closely with their religious faith. There are also plenty of Southern liberals. America as a whole seems to love easy sound-bite generalizations, but the reality is far more complex.

As far as vibrant black communities: Minneapolis doesn't have the long-standing African American communities like you find in places like DC, but there is certainly a black "community", and if you include African-born black people in "black community" than the city has a very vibrant Somali community. And as far as San Francisco goes (the other most liberal city I've lived in) the black population is pretty small, but since when does percentage of black residents define a city? It's still a diverse place.
Does it define a city? No. Does it have any relevance to tolerance? Very much.

I'd love to see places like Seattle and SF become AA magnets like Atlanta and see how the citizens of these areas handle it.

I agree with everything else you stated though and didn't mean to generalize liberals; I know all aren't the same, but the extreme ends of both conservativeness and liberalness can be annoying.
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Minneapolis (St. Louis Park)
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Aparently you can't truly be liberal if you live around black people -- it's too overwhelming!
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Old 12-25-2010, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Underneath the Pecan Tree
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Aparently you can't truly be liberal if you live around black people -- it's too overwhelming!
Lol.......if you say so.
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Liberalness is overrated.

It's like OK, this person supports homosexuality, legalizing weed, free healthcare and more, but hate Christianity, southern culture, conservatives and more.

I think both liberals and conservatives can be rather ignorant and close-minded; another thing about these "open-minded" areas is that they lack vibrant black communities.
I've been saying this on these forums for a while now. It's gotten to the point where I say "Devil's Advocate" when somebody asks my political views. I think both sides are idiotic about certain issues.
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Old 12-25-2010, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Aparently you can't truly be liberal if you live around black people -- it's too overwhelming!
I think you were misinterpreting what he was saying. It's simply interesting to note that most of the cities that pride themselves on being tolerant towards blacks have very little blacks there.

Austin is the same way when it comes to touting itself as liberal. But you just wait until the Texas Relays roll around...
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