Most Northeastern areas outside of the Northeast? (houses, suburbs)
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I feel like the Northeast does extend visually and arguably in other ways across the country. What I mean is that you can be in states not in the Northeast but still see many Northeastern elements in areas not considered Northeastern by anyone.
To me I find this in places like:
Cincinnati: Arguably as visually close to Pennsylvania as Ohio can get in a city environment. From the topography to the architecture, the Cincinnati/ Northern Kentucky area has that Pennsylvania look that isn't associated with the Midwest.
South Side of Chicago: it has that gritty Rust Belt look with abandoned steel mills, plus the Calumet region has a Jerseyish character wherein forested areas can border industrialized areas and all can occupy the same area at once. Northwest Indiana (greater Chicago) has a look similar to South Jersey around Philly. Industrial Indiana in general has some Jersey traits in and of itself. On the Illinois side, you've got places like the South suburbs of Chicago that are very much like South Jersey suburbs of Philly. And in Indiana, Gary and East Chicago are eerily like Camden.
St. Louis: the rowhouses, and elevation changes outside of the city remind me of Philly and its piedmont fall line. The climate can also have a landlocked Mid-Atlantic feel with very hot summers and not so cold winters.
Michigan: This one is like Upstate New York without the mountains. It has that very forested "Northwoods" type feel juxtaposed with industry.
On the West Coast, San Francisco is by far the most Northeastern feeling. The city was mostly founded by New England Yankees who took the long way around before the Panama Canal. Some of the older vernacular architecture is thus very similar to Boston. The city historically had its own localized accent which was New England influenced, but it has faded over time. And of course it's dense and walkable in its core in a way that no other city west of the Rockies is.
On the West Coast, San Francisco is by far the most Northeastern feeling. The city was mostly founded by New England Yankees who took the long way around before the Panama Canal. Some of the older vernacular architecture is thus very similar to Boston. The city historically had its own localized accent which was New England influenced, but it has faded over time. And of course it's dense and walkable in its core in a way that no other city west of the Rockies is.
I have definitely seen the New England connection to the West Coast. It makes a lot of sense that a lot of California has elements of many Northeast locales.
Last edited by EddieOlSkool; 02-21-2017 at 11:23 AM..
I feel like the Northeast does extend visually and arguably in other ways across the country. What I mean is that you can be in states not in the Northeast but still see many Northeastern elements in areas not considered Northeastern by anyone.
To me I find this in places like:
Cincinnati: Arguably as visually close to Pennsylvania as Ohio can get in a city environment. From the topography to the architecture, the Cincinnati/ Northern Kentucky area has that Pennsylvania look that isn't associated with the Midwest.
South Side of Chicago: it has that gritty Rust Belt look with abandoned steel mills, plus the Calumet region has a Jerseyish character wherein forested areas can border industrialized areas and all can occupy the same area at once. Northwest Indiana (greater Chicago) has a look similar to South Jersey around Philly. Industrial Indiana in general has some Jersey traits in and of itself. On the Illinois side, you've got places like the South suburbs of Chicago that are very much like South Jersey suburbs of Philly. And in Indiana, Gary and East Chicago are eerily like Camden.
St. Louis: the rowhouses, and elevation changes outside of the city remind me of Philly and its piedmont fall line. The climate can also have a landlocked Mid-Atlantic feel with very hot summers and not so cold winters.
Michigan: This one is like Upstate New York without the mountains. It has that very forested "Northwoods" type feel juxtaposed with industry.
Any others?
Actually the north woods of the Midwest is not just Michigan, add to it is Wisconsin and Minnesota. ( northern half of these three states). These areas do look somewhat like upper New York and northern New England, especially Maine. However the upper Midwest is quite different culturally, it is far more German and Scandinavian than is the north woods of the northeast states. The accent is also quite different. Climate wise the Midwest is much colder in the winter, the average new englander would find Minnesota or Michigan to be quite brutal in he weather category.
Actually the north woods of the Midwest is not just Michigan, add to it is Wisconsin and Minnesota. ( northern half of these three states). These areas do look somewhat like upper New York and northern New England, especially Maine. However the upper Midwest is quite different culturally, it is far more German and Scandinavian than is the north woods of the northeast states. The accent is also quite different. Climate wise the Midwest is much colder in the winter, the average new englander would find Minnesota or Michigan to be quite brutal in he weather category.
Yeah I meant more by looks than anything else. I also made sure to specify that specifically is more like Upstate New York than it is like New England. That said Northern Michigan in the Lower Peninsula is not as Scandinavian as the UP. In Michigan's LP the English element dating back to the early days is still there.
Visually I can't comment on Minnesota as I am not super familiar with the state and the same goes for Wisconsin since most of what I know in Wisconsin is the very unique driftless area. That area doesn't really remind me of anywhere. I certainly don't believe Northwoods in and of itself is reminiscent of the Northeast but rather the combo of forested area with rolling hills and dying industry PLUS higher density areas. Certainly types of forest weren't the only thing that made me choose Michigan over WI and MN
Michigan: This one is like Upstate New York without the mountains. It has that very forested "Northwoods" type feel juxtaposed with industry.
Not that familiar with the Midwest, but couldn't the same be said for rural Wisconsin at least as much? The rolling hills with farmland in Wisconsin look a bit like upstate NY but the hills aren't as big and the towns don't feel as old.
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